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CXMT has been offering DDR4 chips at about half the prevailing market rate

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Re: CXMT has been offering DDR4 chips at about half the prevailing market rate

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https://wccftech.com/apple-eyeing-a-partnership-with-chinese...

  Apple has planned to explore cooperation with Chinese memory chip manufacturers Yangtze Storage (YMTC) and Changxin Storage (CXMT) to strive for more favorable supply contracts [from the big three]

Re: CXMT has been offering DDR4 chips at about half the prevailing market rate

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Because only western companies are allowed to make massive profits at the expense of entire nations, it's not greed when they do it apparently.

Is it not the case that they're raising price in response to demand? Ie. if they kept the price low, they'd be perpetually out of supply?

Can chose to increase production or embrace the scarcity. The later might look delicious on paper. More profit, less effort, less short term risk. All you have to do is ignore the whale in the room.

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These prices are insane. I can’t believe that’s what constitutes a good deal right now.

For context, I spent $105 USD (all in) for 2x16gb DDR5 ram last April

2x48GB DDR5 for $285 last March.

Turns out I got the wrong kit for that build and had to buy another. It was too late to return it.

Re: CXMT has been offering DDR4 chips at about half the prevailing market rate

#134

Whenever China is mentioned, it's always about government subsidies, as if Samsung didn't receive government subsidies when it was developing

remind me is Samsung's source subsidies also regularly attacking every country's telecoms and infrastructure

Re: CXMT has been offering DDR4 chips at about half the prevailing market rate

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All VC funded companies that release free or underpriced products and services, capture market share, then raise prices or enshittify? The entire business model of VC funded tech?

Typically, VC funded firms are inventing new markets entirely. Simply overcoming startup capital costs is not the argument being made when folks claim dumping.

They are? Most of what VC funded companies do has been done before at a smaller scale, often with less polish and at a higher price.

VC money is used to scale up, cut costs with scale, capture markets, and then usually prices go up later depending on the economics.

The Chinese state is basically just acting as a big VC fund for Chinese manufacturing industries. A VC fund with a sovereign currency and the ability to sustain burn-mode for decades.

It doesn’t always work. There are some absurd examples of Chinese waste produced this way like “ghost cities.” But when it works it works, and at tremendous scale, and they can just dominate entire industries.

Re: CXMT has been offering DDR4 chips at about half the prevailing market rate

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Different types of DRAM can literally be made from the same already-etched wafer. The DRAM bits themselves don't change at all. What's different between DDR4, DDR5, and HBM is the IO interface to the chip. Changing this does not require significant retooling or relearning.

Does that mean CXMT is one inch away from also eating into the DDR5 market?

They will eventually eat everything while they laugh at us. Why would you build a rail network if it isn't profitable? Why build anything if it isn't profitable? Why would you even house people if the profit isn't guaranteed to be as big as other sectors?

Everyone wanted denarius then escudos then guilders then pounds then dollars and soon yuan. They make stuff over there, you can buy it with yuan.

I think India might come after that but Africa is sure to follow. Give it a few hundred years.

Re: CXMT has been offering DDR4 chips at about half the prevailing market rate

#137

Whenever China is mentioned, it's always about government subsidies, as if Samsung didn't receive government subsidies when it was developing

remind me is Samsung's source subsidies also regularly attacking every country's telecoms and infrastructure

is CXMT attacking every contry?

Re: CXMT has been offering DDR4 chips at about half the prevailing market rate

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For context, I spent $105 USD (all in) for 2x16gb DDR5 ram last April

2x48GB DDR5 for $285 last March. Turns out I got the wrong kit for that build and had to buy another. It was too late to return it.

Brutal

Re: CXMT has been offering DDR4 chips at about half the prevailing market rate

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remind me is Samsung's source subsidies also regularly attacking every country's telecoms and infrastructure

is CXMT attacking every contry?

its owner and boss

but sure if they are ordered to they will, good point too;)

Re: CXMT has been offering DDR4 chips at about half the prevailing market rate

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Amazon?

Amazon was wildly profitable on a unit cost basis from relatively early on. They didn’t show profits on paper because they reinvested everything into their capital buildout to reduce costs even more.

I thought Amazon was selling quite a few items at a loss to undercut competition early on?
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