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Every company building your AI assistant is now an ad company

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Re: Every company building your AI assistant is now an ad company

#131

The explicit ads angle is only half the story. Even without paid placements, these models already have implicit recommendations baked in. We ran queries across ChatGPT, Claude, and Perplexity asking for product recommendations in ~30 B2B categories. The overlap between what each model recommends is surprisingly low -- around 40% agreement on the top 5 picks for any given category. And the correlation with Google sear…

What you're saying is "different LLMs recommend different things".

Replace "LLMs" with "random schmucks online" and what changes exactly?

Re: Every company building your AI assistant is now an ad company

#132
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Unless you encrypt it in a manner resistant to any way you can be compelled to decrypt it, In the US you it is not legal to be compelled to turn over a password. It's a violation of your fifth amendment rights. In the UK you can be jailed until you turn over the password.

There’s an interesting loophole for Face ID…

In the US, law enforcement is specifically allowed to compel biometric scans to unlock personal devices.

Re: Every company building your AI assistant is now an ad company

#133

The product that’s being implicitly advertised here is supposed to ship at the end of this year and there doesn’t even appear to be a real photo of the thing and if that’s an indicator of the quality of the product then I must assume that it is poor and the people responsible also apparently do not have the money to hire a capable web designer and I’m sorry if this is harsh or unnecessary but I never thought I would…

The first version will use small batch production techniques like 3D printing and small volume PCB manufacturing. On the photos, we thought it to be more appropriate to show a sketch vs a pretty AI generated photo that is true to anything yet but presents well.

We have some details here on how we’re doing the prototyping with some photos of the current prototype: https://juno-labs.com/blogs/how-we-validate-our-custom-ai-ha...

Re: Every company building your AI assistant is now an ad company

#134
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> Are you okay with private and intimate conversations and moments (including of underage family members) being saved for replaying later? Is this somehow fundamentally different from having memories? Because I thought about it, and decided that personally I do - with one important condition, though. I do because my memories are not as great as I would like them to be, and they decline with stress and age. If a machi…

This will not augment memory the way glasses do for sight, this will replace memory the way a wheelchair replaces legs.

So do you think disabled people deserve to participate in society or not?

Re: Every company building your AI assistant is now an ad company

#135
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> Are you okay with private and intimate conversations and moments (including of underage family members) being saved for replaying later? Typically not how these things work. Speech is processed using ASR (automatic speech recognition), and then ran through a prompt that checks for appropriate tools calls. I've been meaning to basically make this myself but I've been too lazy lately to bother. I actually want a lot…

It really is a prosthetic for minds that struggle to organize themselves.

Like a calendar

Re: Every company building your AI assistant is now an ad company

#136

Maybe I'm just getting old, but I don't understand the appeal of the always-on AI assistant at all. Even leaving privacy/security issues aside, and even if it gets super smart and capable, it feels like it would have a distancing effect from my own life, and undermine my own agency in shaping it. I'm not against AI in general, and some assistant-like functionality that functions on demand to search my digital footpri…

I think it has very little to do with the assistant factor and more to do with the loneliness factor (at least in the West, people are getting lonelier, not less). In other words: sell it to them as a friendly companion/assistant, playing on emotions, while creating a sea of surveillance drones you can license back to the powers that be at a premium.

It's a hell of a mousetrap.

Starts playing Somewhere Over the Rainbow.

Re: Every company building your AI assistant is now an ad company

#137
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This spiel is hilarious in the context of the product this company ( https://juno-labs.com/ ) is pushing – an always on, always listening AI device that inserts itself into your and your family’s private lives. “Oh but they only run on local hardware…” Okay, but that doesn't mean every aspect of our lives needs to be recorded and analyzed by an AI. Are you okay with private and intimate conversations and moments (inc…

> Are you okay with private and intimate conversations and moments (including of underage family members) being saved for replaying later? Is this somehow fundamentally different from having memories? Because I thought about it, and decided that personally I do - with one important condition, though. I do because my memories are not as great as I would like them to be, and they decline with stress and age. If a machi…

Humbly offer this, a cautionary tale perhaps.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funes_the_Memorious

https://www.mathfiction.net/files/Mathfiction%20-%20Borges%2...

Re: Every company building your AI assistant is now an ad company

#138

The explicit ads angle is only half the story. Even without paid placements, these models already have implicit recommendations baked in. We ran queries across ChatGPT, Claude, and Perplexity asking for product recommendations in ~30 B2B categories. The overlap between what each model recommends is surprisingly low -- around 40% agreement on the top 5 picks for any given category. And the correlation with Google sear…

What you're saying is "different LLMs recommend different things". Replace "LLMs" with "random schmucks online" and what changes exactly?

No one is arguing to replace everything with random schmucks.

Re: Every company building your AI assistant is now an ad company

#139
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The fundamental problem with a lot of this is that the legal system is absolute: if information exists, it is accessible. If the courts order it, nothing you can do can prevent the information being handed over, even if that means a raid of your physical premises. Unless you encrypt it in a manner resistant to any way you can be compelled to decrypt it, the only way to have privacy is for information not to exist in…

> Unless you encrypt it in a manner resistant to any way you can be compelled to decrypt it, In the US you it is not legal to be compelled to turn over a password. It's a violation of your fifth amendment rights. In the UK you can be jailed until you turn over the password.

There are many jurisdictions in the US (not all!) where you can't be compelled to turn over a password in a criminal case that's specifically against yourself. But that's a narrow exception to the general principle that a court can order you to give them whatever information they'd like.

Re: Every company building your AI assistant is now an ad company

#140
Is anthropic using ads ? Is mistral using ads ? Is déepseek using ads ?

Google, meta, and amazon, sure, of course.

It's interesting that the "every company" part is only open ai... They're now part of the "bad guys spying on you to display ads." At least it's a viable business model, maybe they can recoup capex and yearly losses in a couple decades instead of a couple centuries.

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