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No Skill. No Taste

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Re: No Skill. No Taste

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I think you can lead yourself astray imagining that there’s a big difference between subjectivity and intersubjectivity. One is just a college educated term for the other. More importantly, I think that enough time has passed that we can critique poor old Kant on this matter. When he says the taste has no interest in something what he is really implicitly describing is that taste is the province of rich people. If on…

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Re: No Skill. No Taste

#133

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Almost like the rules for taste are made up on the fly…

Of course they are, taste is a social conversation to align for a window of time on a set of guidelines. Taste is a social construct, being a social construct (or "made up") does not make it any less real or valuable.

It’s a social construct yeah, but constructed by what?

IMO most of the unpleasant truth about taste is that it is really a stalking horse for money and distinction (cf the book of the same title).

Re: No Skill. No Taste

#134
basically means you let the LLM design for you and you had very little detail control over the outcome other than to keep rolling the dice till it hits you.

Re: No Skill. No Taste

#135

I don't know man. I'm writing a flashcard app, and I like it. It makes me happy and it works the way I want. Exactly how I want. BC I could never get into quizlet. Whatever. Maybe others will like it, maybe not, I don't care. Taste is subjective. Having 1 million todo apps, great. Maybe someone I know will find one they like and tell me about it. Maybe I'll find one that doesn't suck. Maybe I'll just make my own. One…

Taste in the public, means how others perceive it, not totally yourself only. Have good taste for yourself isn't what is being talked about here. It is subjective but the public component and meeting the trend then leading it without too much shock is tough. Copying can be tasteful, you need to know what's good to copy, but there is no wow factor.

Re: No Skill. No Taste

#136
post #90

I don't know man. I'm writing a flashcard app, and I like it. It makes me happy and it works the way I want. Exactly how I want. BC I could never get into quizlet. Whatever. Maybe others will like it, maybe not, I don't care. Taste is subjective. Having 1 million todo apps, great. Maybe someone I know will find one they like and tell me about it. Maybe I'll find one that doesn't suck. Maybe I'll just make my own. One…

I've done the same thing with a todo app. I find that a convenient UI becomes the most important aspect of some applications (to-do list, alarm clocks etc). Getting it to be exactly the way I like it is a benefit by itself. I've been thinking of making a note taking app for my phone as well. The 10 or so that I've used all have had issues that made me not like them for one reason or another. Eg 16k char limit per not…

With millions of todo apps released daily, it boils down to marketing which have a taste component.

Re: No Skill. No Taste

#137
This is entirely a problem of AI sycophancy. You would expect a system that has expert level knowledge in so many domains to be overly cynical and straight up tell you that "No, there is no market for a language learning app, Duolingo doesn't teach language it uses dark patterns and fake testimonial to get people addicted"

AI is actually fine at telling you objective metrics for your field of interest, it's just that people ignore them because they already have the thing they want to do locked in their head. They want to build a skyscraper out of toothpicks and the AI does help them, but the goal remains elusive.

The most important metric in language learning is willingness to communicate, an app (duolingo or flashcard) that lowers WTC is the opposite of a language learning app.

Re: No Skill. No Taste

#138

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This is exactly the sentiment I detected in the previous thread, where a small group of people seem to have decided what the etiquette of daring to post a Show HN is. I'm not sure I remember being consulted on whether you should be keeping these gates for the rest of us. My reaction is the same as it was when people tried to argue Show HN was only for open-source software: says you .

I'm not gate keeping anything, to do that I would have to make specific statements beyond "consider other people when you post something" Right and my point is you (or i) will never be consulted, it happens emergently through community dynamics. No one sat in a group and decided this, Show HN in particular has always been selective. Different things are interesting to different sub groups and they select for differen…

> I'm not gate keeping anything,

Might be unintentional then, but the language in your post comes across as a textbook case of gatekeeping.

Re: No Skill. No Taste

#139

This is the most awkward comment section I've read in a long time. Programmers talking about 'taste'... ouch.

programmers usually help the taste makers vision come true. Programmer with strong taste means they will fight back, and most companies doesn't want that from experience. they need you to sit down code and stfu

Re: No Skill. No Taste

#140
post #53

Most of this mythical "taste", at least as hinted by the article, can be acquired rather easily—by looking into what's already out there before jumping to creating. Is there nothing? Great, go ahead and fill the void. Is there so much that it becomes overwhelming to even look? If so, ask yourself: does your thing have any significant differentiators? Are you willing to maintain it? Do you want the people who come aft…

The problem is that people are often delusional and AI feeds these delusions. You have to switch to objective measures to gain skill and taste. This is true for art (ask: Where is the focal point) instead of "is this good or necessary"

There are long lists of successful programs that market themselves as little more than "like program X, but faster/distributed/higher resolution/bigger map"

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