> The fix has been rolled out and the issuance flow has been undrained. We again apologize for the inconvenience.
issuance flow has been undrained?
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#132People went ballistic on me a few months ago for bringing this up, but this is exactly the kind of outage that makes me really, really worried about extremely short lived certificates. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46118371
You know there’s more than one CA?
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#133> The fix has been rolled out and the issuance flow has been undrained. We again apologize for the inconvenience. issuance flow has been undrained?
Draining is terminology they use for draining traffic from a service.
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#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
They've begun injecting obnoxious ads into the downloadable mp3s on a lot of podcasts I've found. Hyperlocal ads for tire shops and bakeries. I don't want to buy tires, I want to learn about ______. The ads don't even make sense because they're irrelevant.
Welcome to radio 2.0. Give it another 10-20 years and your 2 hour podcasts will be 30 minutes of morning zoo DJ banter, 10 minutes of guests, and 1.5 hours of ads. We’ll have reached peak 90s all over again. With any luck we’ll avoid recreating the conditions for another Nickelback and can stay in the weird zone where Trip Hop and pop punk could chart at the same time.
The 00's podcasts I listened to were often in 2-3 hour episodes, rarely well scripted (or scripted at all?), but a lot of fun and very amateurish. I re-listened to several entire series recently and the episode lengths were the only thing I think was worse than in newer podcasts.
On the other hand, if ads etc gets too annoying, I already have run all my downloaded podcasts through whisper to get transcripts with timestamps. Running some LLM to find ranges to delete would probably be quite easy. As a bonus I would be happy to also cut out all the filler repetitions that seem popular these days ("yes, X, I absolutely agree, [repeats everything X just said]"). Could probably cut 1 hour episodes to 20 minutes without losing any content.
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#135It is a well-known fact that the moment YouTube goes down, the collective productivity of Earth increases by approximately 4,000%, which is immediately squandered by everyone going to Hacker News to read comments about YouTube being down. I myself have taken to podcasts… an ancient medium in which people simply talk at you for ninety minutes without a single sponsorship for a mobile game, and this is considered a fai…
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#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don’t know if you’re being serious but that’s laughable
The idea that all customer data will be deleted is far fetched, but I feel like there have been some massive incidents. Crowdstrike comes to mind, but I feel its entirely possible that Apple/Google/etc could push out some kind of config update which bricks phones in a way they are unable to download another update to fix them. Though I'm sure the major players are all over this risk which is why it hasn't happened.
Google wiped all of UniSuper not too long ago by mistake, I don't see why such a occurrence couldn't happen more widely.
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#137It is a well-known fact that the moment YouTube goes down, the collective productivity of Earth increases by approximately 4,000%, which is immediately squandered by everyone going to Hacker News to read comments about YouTube being down. I myself have taken to podcasts… an ancient medium in which people simply talk at you for ninety minutes without a single sponsorship for a mobile game, and this is considered a fai…
They've begun injecting obnoxious ads into the downloadable mp3s on a lot of podcasts I've found. Hyperlocal ads for tire shops and bakeries. I don't want to buy tires, I want to learn about ______. The ads don't even make sense because they're irrelevant.
At least it is somewhat relevant. Hearing ads about Irish telecom operator ads at the other side of europe is pretty goofy. What's the actual point? Just worsening the podcast experience?
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#138Re: Google Public CA is down
#139People went ballistic on me a few months ago for bringing this up, but this is exactly the kind of outage that makes me really, really worried about extremely short lived certificates. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46118371
I'm not sure I follow. This outage seems like it occurred for less than 1 day. The post you link to is about having certificates expire after 45 days. What's the connection you see?
Some CAs are experimenting with shorter, 7 day certificates as well.
still not an outage that would endanger anyone's ability to renew in time, but for small or extremely shitty CAs (and there are a lot of those) such an outage may take enough time to cause issues in theory I guess?
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#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's pretty much half the puzzle actually. You contend there's no global rm rf for a global cloud provider, but clearly a missing parameter can rm rf a customer in an irrecoverable manner. The only half you're missing is... how every major cloud outage happens today... a bad configuration update. These companies have hundreds of thousands of servers, but they also use orchestration tools to distribute sets of changes…
And the most telling thing about most of these outages is that the provider later admits in their postmortem that they just didn't really understand how the system they made worked until it fell over and were forced to learn how it really works. It's the sort of thing that used to keep me up at night.
When was the last time it wasn't a cascading failure caused by Rube Goldberg levels of interdependency on their own systems.