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Post by lewisjoe »

czhu12 wrote: post #121

Google should build slack. Its a travesty how incredibly good their google workspace suite of tools is, and then google chat is what sits between it all. If it wasn't for the fact that google bungled an internal communication tool so badly, slack wouldn't even have to exist. For the life of me I cannot understand why they after a decade, has let slack and teams become basically a duopoly in this space. Source: I use…

Good is really good at engineering great software and really sucks at making them enterprise ready.

It's why they've been failing with GCP, Google Tables (shutdown now I guess), Analytics or any product that aims for enterprise consumption. Note: they are really good at making consumer softwares though (take the success of Google Photos or Gsearch)

Re: OpenAI should build Slack

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Post by gostsamo »

bydlocoder wrote: post #124
datsci_est_2015 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why it uses 400mb I have no idea. Yes, this is an important detail as well. Make a Slack clone, but have it perform way better than the original (less RAM, CPU usage), with a smaller storage footprint. Also deliver on features faster than the original. And have those features be more tailored to what the users both want and need - and things they didn’t even know they needed as well. This is, after all, what’s bein…

Is Slack CPU and memory usage actually a problem? Sure, developers complain about it but they almost always have powerful PCs

They have one powerful computer and multiple apps which think that each of them has the powerful computer for themselves.

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Post by outofpaper »

e12e wrote: post #66
pwarner wrote: post #4

> Microsoft did, and Teams is by all reports a solid success. Not sure if the author has used Teams. But otherwise, I agree we need an actual good, adorable Slack clone. I thought Google might do this after not buying Slack, but I'm not hearing anything about their solution.

Google gave us Wave - surely that's enough? /s

Lol it aas an admirable attempt at something new. I loved the interesting blend of messaging and document creation. It the code still lives on as an archived open project btw.

https://github.com/apache/incubator-retired-wave

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Post by sodapopcan »

czhu12 wrote: post #121

Google should build slack. Its a travesty how incredibly good their google workspace suite of tools is, and then google chat is what sits between it all. If it wasn't for the fact that google bungled an internal communication tool so badly, slack wouldn't even have to exist. For the life of me I cannot understand why they after a decade, has let slack and teams become basically a duopoly in this space. Source: I use…

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Post by seanhunter »

yellow_lead wrote: post #125

There's already Zulip, Mattermost, and many others. Building a chat application should be considered a tar pit problem IMO. A lot of success relies on network effects and familiarity, and the product looks deceptively simple. It's unlikely you can build one that is better than Slack without years of investment. Even if you do, it's still an uphill battle.

> Building a chat application should be considered a tar pit problem IMO

Yes. For example Discord originated as a side-project for a team who were supposed to be building an MOBA. That’s why if you try to build a discord chatbot or custom command or whatever, the servers are called “guilds” etc.[1]

Slack was also developed by a team who were supposed to be developing a video game.[2]

[1] https://docs.discord.com/developers/resources/guild

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slack_(software)#History

Re: OpenAI should build Slack

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Post by overfeed »

uptownfunk wrote: post #126
czhu12 wrote: post #121

Google should build slack. Its a travesty how incredibly good their google workspace suite of tools is, and then google chat is what sits between it all. If it wasn't for the fact that google bungled an internal communication tool so badly, slack wouldn't even have to exist. For the life of me I cannot understand why they after a decade, has let slack and teams become basically a duopoly in this space. Source: I use…

Totally it is the biggest missing piece of their ecosystem and would complete their offering so nicely. Get a pm and 3 engineers and vibe it out

> Get a pm and 3 engineers and vibe it out

Google has been stuck in exactly this loop for over a decade without going all-in on a single application. They seem to launch a new chat app every couple of years with not quite as many features as the prior chat application, and slowly add features until it's time for it to be replaced by newer one still.

Re: OpenAI should build Slack

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Post by joshgachnang »

czhu12 wrote: post #121

Google should build slack. Its a travesty how incredibly good their google workspace suite of tools is, and then google chat is what sits between it all. If it wasn't for the fact that google bungled an internal communication tool so badly, slack wouldn't even have to exist. For the life of me I cannot understand why they after a decade, has let slack and teams become basically a duopoly in this space. Source: I use…

"Remind me about this" creates a public task in the channel!?!? "Hey everyone! I'm choosing not to respond to this right now but don't want to forget!"

We're migrating off Slack because they jacked our prices by 40% this year. Our team used Google Chat for one week and revolted.

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