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"Creating garbage is easy now." It runs poorly, loses keystrokes, and easily gets bogged down with too much terminal input. I don't want candy coated monospace ASCII graphics. I want something fast and functional. The graphics are _entirely_ secondary. You've missed the point of what a TUI is.
I think TUIs-that-want-to-be-GUIs (as opposed to terminal commands just outputting plain text) are sad. Mainly because they’re largely inaccessible. They flatten the structure of a UI under a character stream. You’re forced to use it exactly the way it was designed and no different. Modern GUIs, even web pages too, expose enough structure to the OS to let you use it more freely. I get why people build TUIs, but it’s…
Isn't this ... everything though? Even the browser which you mention as better in the next paragraph.
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The question is how many decades each user of your software would have to use it in order to offset, through the optimisation it provides, the energy consumption you burned through with LLMs.
Would it be that many? Asked AI to do some rough calculation, and it spit that: Making 50 SOTA AI requests per day ≈ running a 10W LED bulb for about 2.5 hours per day Given I usually have 2-3 lights on all day in the house, that's like 1500 LLM requests per day (which sounds quite more than I do). So even a month worth of requests for building some software doesn't sound that much. Having a local beefy traditional b…
This seems remarkably far from what we know. I mean, just to run the data centre aircon will be an order of magnitude greater than that.
Looks great. Curious why not choose Rust and do extension of https://ratatui.rs/ ?
Yeah, whenever I hear "Building a TUI is easy now" I imagine someone just discovered ratatui.
I think TUIs-that-want-to-be-GUIs (as opposed to terminal commands just outputting plain text) are sad. Mainly because they’re largely inaccessible. They flatten the structure of a UI under a character stream. You’re forced to use it exactly the way it was designed and no different. Modern GUIs, even web pages too, expose enough structure to the OS to let you use it more freely. I get why people build TUIs, but it’s…
So ... Like all Apple products?
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Would it be that many? Asked AI to do some rough calculation, and it spit that: Making 50 SOTA AI requests per day ≈ running a 10W LED bulb for about 2.5 hours per day Given I usually have 2-3 lights on all day in the house, that's like 1500 LLM requests per day (which sounds quite more than I do). So even a month worth of requests for building some software doesn't sound that much. Having a local beefy traditional b…
Is that true? Because that's indeed FAR less than I thought. That would definitely make me worry a lot less about energy consumption (not that I would go and consume more but not feeling guilty I guess).
So back of the napkin, for a decently sized 1000 token response you’re talking about 8s/3600s*1000 = 2wh which even in California is about $0.001 of electricity.
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Is that true? Because that's indeed FAR less than I thought. That would definitely make me worry a lot less about energy consumption (not that I would go and consume more but not feeling guilty I guess).
A H100 uses about 1000W including networking gear and can generate 80-150 t/s for a 70B model like llama. So back of the napkin, for a decently sized 1000 token response you’re talking about 8s/3600s*1000 = 2wh which even in California is about $0.001 of electricity.
The problem with TUI's, that we have all Stockholm syndrom'd ourselves, is that I can't use the mouse cursor to click to the position on the screen and edit the command line.
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They are GUIs --- just minecraft GUIs. One day, we will rediscover why GUI toolkits exist. The only real advantage TUIs have over GUIs is easy remoting, TBH. Maybe that's enough for people. Otherwise? They're just hair shirts.
I've use Claude to make myself a number of little tools and weird apps that only I would want lately. They need to be cross-platform between Linux and Mac and sometimes Windows. The best approaches I've found are Tauri (+Svelte for making layout easier) for lightweight GUIs but for anything more complex I prefer a TUI. The Ratatui framework works very well. A TUI feels like a "real" app as opposed to a glorified webp…
Huh? "Feels"? Plenty of Electron/Tauri apps feel perfectly normal. Like I've been saying, the TUI craze is just a fad.