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Re: Luce: First Electric Ferrari

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Post by OptionOfT »

aetherspawn wrote: post #59
tiffanyh wrote: post #29

Porsche is the only car company that has nailed interior EV design - IMO. Their interiors look high-end, functional and not just a minimalist big computer screen. https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/g46528574/2024-porsche-m...

Lexus CT200h is one of the best interiors ever designed. The design language was tactile: every single button or control had a different action or feel. https://cdn-fastly.thetruthaboutcars.com/media/2022/07/20/94... There’s a roughly 7 inch above the vents that flips up whenever the car is off, but using the screen is optional. The screen is up near the road, and it’s very safe to use. There’s a small joystick to mo…

BMWs interior pre-iPad-glued-to-the-dash is of the same quality. The automatic gear shifter is stateless, by it has an extremely satisfying clunk, buttons and dials for everything. Note that a stateless gear shifter isn't ideal if you ever need to move your car on a dead battery. In a BMW you need to go under the car and screw in a bolt that pushes the parking pall into neutral.

Re: Luce: First Electric Ferrari

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Post by hackyhacky »

c22 wrote: post #118
kjellsbells wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder what the speed/weight tradeoff is on a Ferrari though. Eg on a Bugatti they can put in a beast of an engine (heavy) because their buyers care only about power output and if it gets 8 miles to a gallon who cares. On an electric sports car, where does the break lie between extra weight for a powerful battery and too much weight to make the car go vroom? Side note: I wonder if, in 20 years, petrol cars will the…

> Side note: I wonder if, in 20 years, petrol cars will the preserve of the very rich and the very poor. Sure, except the very poor will be eco criminals (due to being unable to maintain their equipment to relevent emission standards/pay the associated offset fees) and will be selectively hounded and exploited by law enforcement.

At least in some jurisdictions, cars old enough (eg 30 years) are considered antiques and are exempted from emissions requirements.

Re: Luce: First Electric Ferrari

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Post by [deleted] »

SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #27
throw03172019 wrote: post #19

Is there a market for a $400,000+ electric sports car? For me, the excitement of a Ferrari, Lamborghini, etc is the engine and the sound.

The selling point of electric sports cars is more "the acceleration is amazing" and less "it makes a loud noise". e.g. > a 0–100 km/h (62 mph) acceleration time of 2.36 seconds, and a quarter mile (402 m) drag race time of 9.78 seconds. ... unofficially the fastest production car in the world https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yangwang_U9 > Model S Plaid Takes 2.07 Seconds to Accelerate from 0-100 mph https://www.energytr…

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Re: Luce: First Electric Ferrari

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Post by wmf »

hackyhacky wrote: post #134
c22 wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Side note: I wonder if, in 20 years, petrol cars will the preserve of the very rich and the very poor. Sure, except the very poor will be eco criminals (due to being unable to maintain their equipment to relevent emission standards/pay the associated offset fees) and will be selectively hounded and exploited by law enforcement.

At least in some jurisdictions, cars old enough (eg 30 years) are considered antiques and are exempted from emissions requirements.

Only if there are very few of them. If there's a critical mass of EV refuseniks in the future they will be banned.

Re: Luce: First Electric Ferrari

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Post by sgt »

elxr wrote: post #72
browningstreet wrote: post #49

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The new Cayenne interior is terrible. Macan is good. Rivian is the only excellent one.

Rivians don't even have a physical vent control (to aim the vents). That alone disqualifies it from anything close to "excellent". And that's before mentioning all the missing physical buttons that should've been there. Touch screen buttons, especially the ones on the far edge of the center screen, are harder to accurately hit for most people. More physical buttons = better = more premium.

My 4 year old broke off all my vent controls. Turns out you don't need 'em!

Re: Luce: First Electric Ferrari

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Post by yakshaving_jgt »

aetherspawn wrote: post #59
tiffanyh wrote: post #29

Porsche is the only car company that has nailed interior EV design - IMO. Their interiors look high-end, functional and not just a minimalist big computer screen. https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/g46528574/2024-porsche-m...

Lexus CT200h is one of the best interiors ever designed. The design language was tactile: every single button or control had a different action or feel. https://cdn-fastly.thetruthaboutcars.com/media/2022/07/20/94... There’s a roughly 7 inch above the vents that flips up whenever the car is off, but using the screen is optional. The screen is up near the road, and it’s very safe to use. There’s a small joystick to mo…

Looks a little bland to me.

Personally I’m very happy with the interior of my 2012 Cayenne.

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