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Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#131

So where we all jumping to?

Someone bring back AOL instant messenger! >:( Jokes aside, I've played around with Campfire and it's very, very simple, but pretty nice to use and easy to set up: https://once.com/campfire

> Someone bring back AOL instant messenger! >:(

There's an actively developed open source server that allows the clients to connect!

https://github.com/mk6i/open-oscar-server

I wish Smarter Child was still around so we could see how LLMs interact with it.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#133
post #110

It's a relief to finally read that Discord is indirectly shutting down and getting rid of it's users. It was inevitable but dragged out far too long with all the VC money to burn. Hopefully everyone can figure out how to use XMPP and/or get back on IRC. It is a genuine shame how much culture and information will be lost inside their walled garden though.

XMPP and IRC are great and all but a massive part of what people use Discord for is group voice calls with screen-sharing. I'm not sure what the alternative is for that. TeamSpeak is the closest I can think of but it's not a 1:1 replacement for a number of reasons.

We use Jitsi for voice/video calls + screen sharing (but I realise you may be talking about all-in-one alternatives)

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#134

The endgame I see is that it will be illegal to communicate on the internet without having a proven bank account. At least in the USA where all ID verification is settling on banks (ie, Plaid). And the banks will tolerate 10,000 false positive denials of service to avoid a single false negative and be happy about it. Plaid even more so. Human beings will have no recourse as they are private companies. This really sho…

I do not understand this at all. How is ID verification settling on banks????! And which of these banks are private?

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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post #23

Here's the October 2025 Discord data breach mentioned at the end of the article: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8jmzd972leo > Discord, a messaging platform popular with gamers, says official ID photos of around 70,000 users have potentially been leaked after a cyber-attack. However, their senior director states in this Verge article: > The ID is immediately deleted. We do not keep any information around like your…

>Why they didn't do that the first time? The company they hired to do the support tickets archived them, including attachments, rather than deleting them.

How convenient.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#136

What realistic open source alternatives to Discord are there? I'm currently considering moving to one of these with my friend group: - Matrix - Stoat, previously revolt ( https://stoat.chat/ ) - IRC + Mumble - Signal

Which of these has been around for over three decades?

That would be my answer.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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post #69

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> When big tech tosses money at Republicans and the Trump inauguration, they get what they paid for.

This has nothing to do with republicans in particular. This is concerted effort by lobbying groups around the world who want to get more of your data.

Case and point: all the EU countries that are currently banning teens from using messaging services and social media apps which can only be enforced if you force everyone using these services to provide some form of ID to prove that you are allowed to use them.

Not too mention the EU itself trying force a backdoor into every messaging app "to protect the children".

Be mad at the US politicians if you want but just know that the situation is not better in the EU, on the contrary it's going downhill very fast and that has nothing to do with Trump.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#138

The endgame I see is that it will be illegal to communicate on the internet without having a proven bank account. At least in the USA where all ID verification is settling on banks (ie, Plaid). And the banks will tolerate 10,000 false positive denials of service to avoid a single false negative and be happy about it. Plaid even more so. Human beings will have no recourse as they are private companies. This really sho…

I do not understand this at all. How is ID verification settling on banks????! And which of these banks are private?

Sorry if I was inexact in my wording. It's settling on the existence of your bank account proving who you are. The ID services require you to give them your bank login credentials (ie, Plaid). So there are two levels of denial, at Plaid (and related ID services) themselves and the banks deciding weather or not they want to allow it (work with Plaid, or Plaid with them, etc) and if they want to give you a bank account.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#139
post #23

Here's the October 2025 Discord data breach mentioned at the end of the article: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8jmzd972leo > Discord, a messaging platform popular with gamers, says official ID photos of around 70,000 users have potentially been leaked after a cyber-attack. However, their senior director states in this Verge article: > The ID is immediately deleted. We do not keep any information around like your…

> The ID is immediately deleted. We do not keep any information around like your name, the city that you live in, if you used a birth certificate or something else, any of that information. This is also contradicted by what Discord actually says: > Quick deletion: Identity documents submitted to our vendor partners are deleted quickly— in most cases, immediately after age confirmation. What are the non-most cases?

Also, _Discord_ deleting them is really only half the battle; random vendors deleting them remains an issue.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#140
post #96

We're going to need decentralized open source alternatives with E2EE for any major communication services, unfortunately. It's just too temping of a target for Governments. They're never going to give up trying to destroy anonymity online.

They already exists except that most people don't know about it and also it is extremely hard to move over all the existing users from Whatsapp to something less popular and less user friendly.

Until that changes, then the governments around the world are going to keep pushing to get access to all our messages in order to "protect the children" TM and ask you to prove that "you are not a child" TM

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