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AI fatigue is real and nobody talks about it

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Re: AI fatigue is real and nobody talks about it

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Post by luplex »

ericmcer wrote: post #63
parpfish wrote: post #18

For me the fatigue is a little different— it’s the constant switching between doing a little bit of work/coding/reviewing and then stopping to wait for the llm to generate something. The waits are unpredictable length, so you never know if you should wait or switch to a new task. So you just do something to kill a little time while the machine thinks. You never get into a flow state and you feel worn down from this c…

Seriously and beyond productivity, flow state was what I liked most about the job. A cup of coffee and noise cancelling headphones and a 2 hour locked in session were when I felt most in love with programming.

I still hit the flow state in cursor, always reviewing the plan for some feature, asking questions, learning, reviewing code. I'm still thinking hard to keep up with the model.

Re: AI fatigue is real and nobody talks about it

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Post by the-grump »

parpfish wrote: post #18

For me the fatigue is a little different— it’s the constant switching between doing a little bit of work/coding/reviewing and then stopping to wait for the llm to generate something. The waits are unpredictable length, so you never know if you should wait or switch to a new task. So you just do something to kill a little time while the machine thinks. You never get into a flow state and you feel worn down from this c…

What has worked for me is having multiple agents do different tasks (usually in different projects) and doing something myself that I haven't automated yet.

e.g. managing systems, initiating backups, thinking about how I'll automate my backups, etc.

The list of things I haven't automated is getting shorter, and having LLMs generate something I'm happy to hand the work to has been a big part of it.

Re: AI fatigue is real and nobody talks about it

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Post by CurleighBraces »

tempodox wrote: post #113
CurleighBraces wrote: post #13

I loved the section about trying to fight against a system that isn't deterministic. LLMs because of their nature require constant hand-holding by humans, unless business are willing to make them entirely accountable for the systems/products they produce.

How could you hold a dumb machine “accountable”? Attempting that would be insane. How would you discipline it? Reduce the voltage in its power supply? Do you hold the dice accountable when you lose at the craps table?

Heh, agree it sounds absurd doesn't it.

I would imagine instead companies will end up sleeping walking into this scenario until catastrophy hits.

Re: AI fatigue is real and nobody talks about it

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Post by onraglanroad »

falcor84 wrote: post #84
onraglanroad wrote: post #9

That's what increasing productivity means. You are working harder to increase the unearned income of "investors". That's the way society is set up.

I don't get this sentiment. If you don't want investors to give you any input, don't take money from investors. With a Claude Max subscription, it's cheaper than ever to develop a product entirely by yourself or with a couple of friends, if that's what you prefer to do.

That is what I prefer to do. I prefer "cottage industry" to "capitalism" but that's not the easiest option in this society.

That's the sentiment you don't get.

Edit: haha, I'll repeat an earlier comment! Nothing can fly on the moon.

Re: AI fatigue is real and nobody talks about it

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Post by goostavos »

StilesCrisis wrote: post #115
barishnamazov wrote: post #29

This write-up has good ideas but gives me the "AI-generated reading fatigue." Things that can cleanly be expressed in 1-2 sentences are whole paragraphs, often with examples that seem unnecessary or unrealistic. There are also some wrong claims like below: > The Hacker News front page alone is enough to give you whiplash. One day it's "Show HN: Autonomous Research Swarm" and the next it's "Ask HN: How will AI swarms…

"You're not imagining it." I hit back immediately.

Sigh.. same.

The real AI fatigue is the constant background irritation I have when interacting with LLMs.

"You're not imagining it" "You're not crazy" "You're absolutely right!" "Your right to push back on this" "Here's the no fluff, correct, non-reddit answer"

Re: AI fatigue is real and nobody talks about it

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barishnamazov wrote: post #29

This write-up has good ideas but gives me the "AI-generated reading fatigue." Things that can cleanly be expressed in 1-2 sentences are whole paragraphs, often with examples that seem unnecessary or unrealistic. There are also some wrong claims like below: > The Hacker News front page alone is enough to give you whiplash. One day it's "Show HN: Autonomous Research Swarm" and the next it's "Ask HN: How will AI swarms…

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Re: AI fatigue is real and nobody talks about it

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Post by mavamaarten »

parpfish wrote: post #18

For me the fatigue is a little different— it’s the constant switching between doing a little bit of work/coding/reviewing and then stopping to wait for the llm to generate something. The waits are unpredictable length, so you never know if you should wait or switch to a new task. So you just do something to kill a little time while the machine thinks. You never get into a flow state and you feel worn down from this c…

For me it honestly matches pretty well. I give it an instruction and go reply to an email, and when I'm back in my IDE I have work (that was done while I was doing something else) to review.

Going back from writing an email to working, versus going back from email to reviewing someone else's work feels harder.

Re: AI fatigue is real and nobody talks about it

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Post by amelius »

parpfish wrote: post #18

For me the fatigue is a little different— it’s the constant switching between doing a little bit of work/coding/reviewing and then stopping to wait for the llm to generate something. The waits are unpredictable length, so you never know if you should wait or switch to a new task. So you just do something to kill a little time while the machine thinks. You never get into a flow state and you feel worn down from this c…

As a programmer I want to minimize my context switches, because they require a lot of energy.

LLMs force me to context switch all the time.

Re: AI fatigue is real and nobody talks about it

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Post by CurleighBraces »

falcor84 wrote: post #126
CurleighBraces wrote: post #13

I loved the section about trying to fight against a system that isn't deterministic. LLMs because of their nature require constant hand-holding by humans, unless business are willing to make them entirely accountable for the systems/products they produce.

How would that make them any more deterministic? I haven't yet met a deterministic human dev.

It doesn't.

The difference is that we as humans are held accountable for our non-determinism.

The consequences of our actions have real world implications on our lives.

Re: AI fatigue is real and nobody talks about it

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Post by thrownaway561 »

Personally I'm loving AI for TECHNICAL problems. Case in point... I just had a server crash last night and obviously I need to do a summary on what could have possibly caused the issue. This use to take hours and painfully hours at that. If you ever had to scroll through a Windows event log you know what I'm talking about. But today I just got an idea of just exporting the log and uploading it to Gemini and asking it:

Looking at this Windows event log, the server rebooted unexpected this morning at 4:21am EST, please analyze the log and let me know what could have been the cause of the reboot.

It took Gemini 5 minutes to come back with an analyst and not only that, it asked me for the memory dump that the machine took. I uploaded that as well and it told me that it looks like SentinelOne might have caused the problem and to update the client if possible.

Checking the logs myself, that's exactly what it looks like.

That used to take me HOURS to do and now it took me 30 seconds, took Gemini 10 minutes, but me 30 seconds. That is a game changer if you ask me.

I love my job, but I love doing other things rather than combing over a log trying to figure out why a server rebooted. I just want to know what to do to fix it if it can be fixed.

I get that AI might be giving other people a sour taste, but to me it really has made my job, and the medial tasks that come with it. easier.

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