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> Even Xfinity has motion detection in homes using this technique now WiFi presence detection is a completely different problem. If the WiFi environment is changing past a threshold, return a boolean yes or no. It can't actually tell if someone is present or if the environment is just changing, such as a car driving close enough to reflect signals back in a certain way. Doing mass surveillance where you detect indivi…
You'll have to explain that a bit more. Isn't the threshold detection analyzing radio signal data? For identifying people, you don't need to reconstruct their face or fingerpring using that data. you just need to fingerprint them. With gait analysis for example, it's only looking at a handful of data points, the way we walk is very unique. lip-reading, i can see how that's a stretch, but out movement patterns and gai…
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Insufficient granularity of data
Re: WiFi could become an invisible mass surveillance system
#132WiFi is already part of invisible mass surveillance systems, though not in the way described in the article. It's part of how cell phones fix location, based on nearby wifi endpoints, which is then sent to google, apple, every app, every advertiser, etc.
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#133Who cares, we have nothing to hide.
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#134I remember reading about this in a Cory Doctorow novel decades ago, Eastern Standard Tribe, I think.
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#135I'm skeptical; this seems like a pretty crappy way to do surveillance. Cameras give you much more information.
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Exactly. All of these stories using WiFi to detect things with high accuracy are just extreme machine learning demos. Given a tightly controlled environment and enough training data, you can use a lot of things as sensors. These techniques are not useful for general purpose sensing, though. The WiFi router in your home isn't useful for this.
today's tech demos are tomorrow's everyday
Exactly. People are wrong to dismiss this as they're doing in this thread.
LLMs were useless back in 2021.
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Unless they start storing data about your specific gait & posture, skull shape, limb dimensions and build up a "fingerprint" of your body.
You mean like those scanners at the airport?
Please submit full body 3D scan for verification, otherwise discord will lock you to the "kids only" section and mock you mercilessly.
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#138Not surprised, related: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46920315
Why is this downvoted.
Is supposed to read: “Not surprised. Related:”
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#139Correct me if I'm wrong but assuming they didn't already know your identity, wearing a mask for instance would prevent profiling you based on your radio wave constructed facial features.
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