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Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Well yeah, it is just better. At my work we have a copilot license, but we use it to access Claude Sonnet/Opus model in OpenCode.

The Copilot-Cli is not so bad, https://github.com/features/copilot/cli

Agreed. I was an early adopter of Claude Code. And at work we only had Copilot. But the Copilit CLI isn't too bad now. you've got slash commands for Agents.MD and skills.md files now for controlling your context, and access to Sonnet & Opus 4.5.

Maybe Microsoft is just using it internally, to finish copying the rest of the features from Claude Code.

Much like the article states, I use Claude Code beyond just it's coding capabilities....

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Microsoft have a goal that states they want to get to " 1 engineer, 1 month, 1 million lines of code. " You can't do that if you write the code yourself. That means they'll always be chasing the best model. Right now, that's Opus 4.5.

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/engineering-at-microsoft/welc... "Microsoft has over 100,000 software engineers working on software projects of all sizes." So that would mean 100 000 000 000 (100 billion) lines of code per month. Frightening.

So the recent surge in demand for storage is to because we have to store that code somewhere?

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions. There is Microsoft Copilot, which replaced Bing Chat, Cortana and uses OpenAI’s GPT-4 and 5 models. There is Github Copilot, the coding autocomplete tool. There is Microsoft 365 Copilot, what they now call Office with built in GenAI stuff. There is also a Copilot cli that lets you use whatever agent/model backend you want too? Everything is Co…

>Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions

Microsoft cannot and will not ever get better at naming things. It is said the universe will split open and and eldritch beast will consume the stars the day Microsoft stops using inconsistent and overlapping names for different and conflicting products.

Isn't that right .Net/dotnet

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can't speak for copilot but Gemini cli is unbelievably bad compared to Gemini web. CC has some magic secret sauce and I'm not sure what it is. My company pays for both too, I keep coming back to Claude all-round

Claude Code is one of a very few AI tools where I genuinely think the people at the company who build it use it all the time.

watch the interviews with Boris. He absolutely uses it to build CC.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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That isn't going well for Satya.

Indeed it's not: https://www.windowslatest.com/2026/01/09/is-microsoft-losing... And: https://www.perspectives.plus/p/microsoft-365-copilot-commer... Tldr: Copilot has 1% marketshare among web chatbots and 1.85% of paid M365 users bought a subscription to it. As much as I think AI is overrated already, Copilot is pretty much the worst performing one out there from the big tech companies. Despite all the Copilot butto…

Yeah, my problem the way it has been pushed is that how it doesn't make sense at all.

Improve the workflows that would benefit "AI" algorithms, image recognition, voice control, hand writing, code completion, and so on.

No need to put buttons to chat windows all over the place.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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This is funny because everyone’s AI strategy should have been “What do we actually need to be productive?” Which is how Anthropic pulled ahead of Microsoft, that prioritized checks notes Taking screenshots of every windows user’s desktop every few seconds. For productivity.

Anthropic has a model. Microsoft doesn't.

Microsoft can use OpenAI models but it's not the model that's the problem, it's the application of them. Anthropic simply knows how to execute better.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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For one reason or another everyone seems to be sleeping on Gemini. I have been exclusively using Gemini 3 Flash to code these days and it stands up right alongside Opus and others while having a much smaller, faster and cheaper footprint. Combine it with Antigravity and you're basically using a cheat code.

I think Gemini is an excellent model, it's just not a particularly great agent. One of the reasons is that its code output is often structured in a way that looks like it's answering a question, rather than generating production code. It leaves comments everywhere, which are often numbered (which not only is annoying, but also only makes sense if the numbering starts within the frame of reference of the "question" it's "answering").

It's also just not as good at being self-directed and doing all of the rest of the agent-like behaviors we expect, i.e. breaking down into todolists, determining the appropriate scope of work to accomplish, proper tool calling, etc.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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So Copilot is for customers, Claude is for getting actual work done?

Copilot isn't a model, you can use Claude via Copilot.

Both use the same models. But Claude Code has something special that Microsoft doesn't have in Github Copilot CLI.
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