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Re: Archive.today is directing a DDoS attack against my blog

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Post by Duwensatzaj »

m132 wrote: post #96
DoctorOW wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Do we want archive.today taken down over this? I don't think that's on the table. I would say use this as your incentive to support archive.org, who has proven much more accountable. Archive.Today is weaponizing their traffic, and reducing traffic is the best way to deal with it. Vote with your feet.

I don't think these two are exactly equivalent. Internet Archive is a registered non-profit organization. It is more trustworthy and accountable, but it cannot realistically stand against government-imposed censorship. We've seen this unfold before with Twitter and Meta, partly with Telegram. Archive.today may be similar on the surface, but if you take a closer look, it's actually an underground "evil twin" that has…

Internet Archive's trustworthiness took a hit when they waded into fact checking - https://blog.archive.org/2020/10/30/fact-checks-and-context-... and wiping content they disapproved of - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32743325

Re: Archive.today is directing a DDoS attack against my blog

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Post by direwolf20 »

chrisjj wrote: post #107
direwolf20 wrote: post #100

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This also makes it susceptible to government pressure. It's easy to get a page taken down from archive.org and it won't archive anything paywalled.

Government pressure is the least of the problem. Anyone gaining control of a domain can delete all archives of it.

Because the government pressures them to obey this

Re: Archive.today is directing a DDoS attack against my blog

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Post by [deleted] »

snailmailman wrote: post #40
its-summertime wrote: post #10

previously https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46624740

Interestingly, theres an account in that thread claiming to be from Gyrovague, but its not the same one thats in this thread , which has been confirmed to be legit as it is mentioned by name in this latest Gyrovague article. I wonder, is the newer gyrovague-com account because they lost the login for the old one? or was the old one a different person? Hopefully they can clarify, because if there's an account pretendi…

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Re: Archive.today is directing a DDoS attack against my blog

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Post by efilife »

chrisjj wrote: post #86
account42 wrote: post #77

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I'm pretty sure that's intentional because the timestamp used to calculate where the article shows up on the front page.

My greater faith in the integrity of the admins tells me they do not intend this false association. Its a misrep that can seriously mislead.

They intend it. It was explained by dang at some point

Re: Archive.today is directing a DDoS attack against my blog

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Post by parable »

Hamuko wrote: post #95
parable wrote: post #54

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It seems that the website has been blocked in Finland since at least August of 2023, see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37011955 .

I definitely used it from Finland last year. It was blocked some time in th past since the owner was mad at Finnish authorities, but at some point that was revoked. Even the post you linked acknowledges this: > he blocked the entire site in Finland, although later he lifted the block

My apologies, I clearly missed that. If I could edit my post, I'd change it to "It seems that the website has been blocked in Finland in the past, though the block was later lifted."

Re: Archive.today is directing a DDoS attack against my blog

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Post by Ms-J »

ValdikSS wrote: post #130
Ms-J wrote: post #75

Archive sites are very important for freedom due to many different entities out there attacking sites and getting them taken down. Unfortunately Archive.today complies with these attack requests in some situations, but is still usually better than others.

>Unfortunately Archive.today complies with these attack requests in some situations, but is still usually better than others. Use Onion version :D

Thanks so much for the tip.

Placing the link for others:

archiveiya74codqgiixo33q62qlrqtkgmcitqx5u2oeqnmn5bpcbiyd.onion

Fingers crossed that it works!

Re: Archive.today is directing a DDoS attack against my blog

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Post by cowboylowrez »

gyrovague-com wrote: post #57
snailmailman wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interestingly, theres an account in that thread claiming to be from Gyrovague, but its not the same one thats in this thread , which has been confirmed to be legit as it is mentioned by name in this latest Gyrovague article. I wonder, is the newer gyrovague-com account because they lost the login for the old one? or was the old one a different person? Hopefully they can clarify, because if there's an account pretendi…

OP gyrovague-com here. Yes, I can confirm that I was also "gyrovague" on HN, but embarrassingly I've lost/typoed the password.

hey pal u need to take action your adversary has deployed the big guns:

>And I will not write "an OSINT investigation" on your Nazi grandfather, will not vibecode a gyrovague.gay dating app, etc

this guy means business lol

Re: Archive.today is directing a DDoS attack against my blog

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Post by chrisjj »

efilife wrote: post #135
chrisjj wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My greater faith in the integrity of the admins tells me they do not intend this false association. Its a misrep that can seriously mislead.

They intend it. It was explained by dang at some point

I will look out for that.
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