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TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Post by woooooo »

ericmay wrote: post #124
woooooo wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not about legality, its about scrolling and recommendations. Young people see stuff by other young people by default. Its been a conservative/zionist talking point for years now that "the youth are getting brainwashed by tiktok", and Ellison in particular seems to be in the "I've gone hard right due to the latest Israel conflict" camp. So of course they're not being subtle about it.

So I do have easy access to information, and the OP was incorrect? > its about scrolling and recommendations Don't scroll and don't take recommendations from these platforms. It's better now that it's American owned, but you really shouldn't have been using it when the Chinese Communist Party owned it. And I'm only talking about TikTok because that's the OP. I don't use any social media platforms besides LinkedIn, an…

OP said "buying TikTok was about hiding information from people", and the people who bought TikTok are trying to suppress certain information on TikTok.

Whether you or I think that's effective or not is up for debate, I also avoid social media, but OP made a statement about intentions.

(And, aside, the current intentions appear far more pointed and ideological than when it was owned by ByteDance as a lottery winner with a surprise overseas success, optimizing for youth engagement.)

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Post by davidmurdoch »

infecto wrote: post #129
davidmurdoch wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does this all the time. I think it is called "exploration injection". It increases engagement by trying to prevent boredom.

It’s amazes how confident people will describe your lived experiences and say you are wrong. No this was entirely different and coincided in time with the complaints of censorship.

I said you were right. You might need to go touch grass man.

[Edit]: I shouldn't have made the "touch grass" comment. Sorry.

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Post by js8 »

When I was 11, on 17th Nov 1989, in Czechoslovakia, my father was watching the evening news on our (black and white) TV, as usual.

There was a protest and the state media was reporting on it. When the reporter said, "our camera broke down and we can only show black and white pictures", my father IMMEDIATELY jumped up and angrily said, "that's bs, you don't want to show how they [the protesting students] got beaten up [by the police]!"

This was an interesting life lesson. So yeah, sure, technical difficulties..

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Post by giraffe_lady »

ericmay wrote: post #124
woooooo wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not about legality, its about scrolling and recommendations. Young people see stuff by other young people by default. Its been a conservative/zionist talking point for years now that "the youth are getting brainwashed by tiktok", and Ellison in particular seems to be in the "I've gone hard right due to the latest Israel conflict" camp. So of course they're not being subtle about it.

So I do have easy access to information, and the OP was incorrect? > its about scrolling and recommendations Don't scroll and don't take recommendations from these platforms. It's better now that it's American owned, but you really shouldn't have been using it when the Chinese Communist Party owned it. And I'm only talking about TikTok because that's the OP. I don't use any social media platforms besides LinkedIn, an…

The chinese government has never physically assaulted me or my neighbors, never used tear gas around the elementary school my family attends. The united states government has. It's interesting to me that you're so certain about your threat model here but I don't share it.

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Post by LightBug1 »

xve wrote: post #128

It looks like some are moving over to upscroll, anyone know anything about upscroll? what other apps are you using? I remember when everyone migrated from MySpace to Facebook and I assumed everyone was going to just keep moving over to the next big thing every few years but that actually didn't happen. Facebook became an institution.

Thanks for the heads up ... we're really entering some shitty internet times

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Post by pjc50 »

mschuster91 wrote: post #12
inetknght wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but not that fast Why not? All the tech was already put in place by China. All that the U.S. had to do was change the filtered words.

I had expected a longer "cooldown" time so that people don't immediately jump to the conclusion that the forced TikTok sale was to suppress discussion of the Epstein files.

No, the forced bipartisan support TikTok sale was to suppress discussion of Palestine.

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Post by MattDaEskimo »

It feels like federated networks with open-sourced feed algorithms are the best path forward.

If AI removes any technical limitations, and automates content management, what's stopping a content creator from owning what they create and distributing it themselves?

How can centralization continue to survive?

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Post by mekdoonggi »

iugtmkbdfil834 wrote: post #126

Allow me to offer some words of wisdom. If you help building weapons to be used against $currently_designated_bad_people, you can rest assured that given enough time, those weapons will be used against you. I am watching all this with a mild sense of bemusement.

A NYT columnist Jamelle Bouie suggested (in jest) that the next Democrat administration send armed IRS agents to gated communities in Florida, to "investigate tax fraud".

But this is exactly why all citizens should be concerned about the infringement of rights happening in Minnesota. If it is allowed without prosecution, you are next.

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Post by hairofadog »

andsoitis wrote: post #58
mark_l_watson wrote: post #4

The forced US hosted tik-tok sale is all about hiding information from the US public that most people in the rest of the world have easy access to.

> hiding information from the US public It is literally on the front page of news papers.... Also, you can see it on Instagram, X, etc. Even a cursory search on TikTok reveals anti-ICE content...

TikTok is hugely influential, and the younger people they're trying to influence don't read newspapers and don't hang out on X or Instagram (both of which also censor certain political content).

https://www.npr.org/2024/03/26/1240737627/meta-limit-politic...

https://www.reddit.com/r/OptimistsUnite/comments/1i9zf5u/rco...

https://arxiv.org/html/2508.13375v1

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Post by dmit »

infecto wrote: post #125
dmit wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People jump to the conclusion because a lot of the time they've had this exact argument already, and they know how it tends to end. Proclaiming oneself a centrist might seem like a noble, moderate position. But in 2026, with the Overton window basically being shifted outside the frame?

What argument are we having? I see someone struggling to hold their own words steady, and you claiming that I am proclaiming something when I only mentioned it because of this exact problem. I do not really think of myself as left or right within the current American political system. I do not follow either political party, and my opinions often zig zag across existing party lines. If anything, maybe “centrist” is th…

I'm not having an argument. I was just trying to explain that "I'm not left or right" sounds like "I am perfectly fine with how things are right now" to the people who think the current state of things is an absolute disaster.
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