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Re: 200 MB RAM FreeBSD desktop

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Post by pjmlp »

dTal wrote: post #106

I remember, in 2007, running FreeBSD on a desktop with 512MB RAM and only using 64MB of it running full GNOME 2 and a running instance of Firefox with a couple tabs. A totally standard desktop experience. Even better, my laptop at the time had only 128MB of RAM and ran Windows XP - a supported, albeit minimal, configuration. XP was bloatier than FreeBSD of course, and ran correspondingly less well, but replacing expl…

The computer I installed Slackware 2.0 was a P75 with 16 MB of RAM!

Naturally this cannot work when every application is an instance of Chrome.

I am glad for the RAM prices, maybe this will teach a new generation on how to care about their data structures again.

Re: 200 MB RAM FreeBSD desktop

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Post by eth0up »

zozbot234 wrote: post #63
eth0up wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can your "one issue" be tweaked by adding more RAM and allocating it thusly? I'm using Void with 24gb ddr5 and frequently get system freezes during high productivity. Browser tabs in the background are often contributors, but working with openshot or odb crashes often. I have several old nuc's and I might try tinycore on one. What do you or most others use it for, primarily?

If the system totally freezes such that you can't even ssh in, that's just flaky hardware and you should replace it.

It's a newer Lenovo vpro, not because I wanted that, but because it's what I got. It came with 16g of reputable ram, then I added 8g ~1 year ago for $20, the exact same module which is now $120. Orher than a bad ram chip, what else would be the culprit?

Re: 200 MB RAM FreeBSD desktop

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Post by pjmlp »

_joel wrote: post #105
scrapheap wrote: post #104

200MB for a desktop sounds massive to some of us :D Back in the day I used to have a desktop running, with applications, in just 512KB. Getting that memory upgrade to a full 1MB was amazing.

Yup, fond memories of my Amiga 500+ (full meg, woo!)

And for many scenarios people use their computers for, it would still be enough today.

Re: 200 MB RAM FreeBSD desktop

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Post by pjmlp »

giamma wrote: post #12

It used to be like that, computer had limited resources and desktop environments were light. Then at some point RAM became less and less of an issue, and everything started to get bigger and less efficient. Coyuld anyone summarize why a desktop Windows/MacOs now needs so much more RAM than in the past? is it the UI animations, color themes, shades etc etc or is it the underlying operating system that has more and mor…

As written on a sibling comment, maybe RAM being hard to get will bring some of that back.

I really needed to save to buy RAM sticks back in the day.

Re: 200 MB RAM FreeBSD desktop

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Post by TheAmazingRace »

_joel wrote: post #105
scrapheap wrote: post #104

200MB for a desktop sounds massive to some of us :D Back in the day I used to have a desktop running, with applications, in just 512KB. Getting that memory upgrade to a full 1MB was amazing.

Yup, fond memories of my Amiga 500+ (full meg, woo!)

Or the Atari ST! I have one at home with 1 MB of RAM in it and it still flies. Boots up in less than a few seconds, which is faster than any of my modern PCs.

Re: 200 MB RAM FreeBSD desktop

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Post by ruslan »

When I was watching that Lunduke's video a couple of days ago initially I was thinking he's just making a joke of that Vendefoul Wolf distro on 200MB box. I recalled using FreeBSD as access server with lots of modems (PPP/SLIP), Apache, Samba and QuakeWorld server running on a box with just 32MB of RAM. That was also my daily working machine with XF86 and Enlightenment desktop manager, circa 2000. So, 200MB is a whole lot of memory!

Re: 200 MB RAM FreeBSD desktop

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Post by badc0ffee »

guenthert wrote: post #34
badc0ffee wrote: post #8

I remember booting up Debian into an X11 session on a laptop with only 8 MB of RAM. (This would have been circa 2000, and I think I had to try a few different distros before finding one that worked. Also I don't think I did anything with it beyond Xterm and Xeyes.)

That would have been then already some kind of anachronism. 8MiB RAM was workable (but only barely so with X11) in the early nineties. Late nineties 64MiB or more were common.

Yes, it was an old laptop at the time.

Re: 200 MB RAM FreeBSD desktop

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Post by subsistence234 »

pilif wrote: post #51
Mashimo wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have no idea who he is, never heard of him. You shall not judge a book by its cover but .. he is making it hard. His video titles are: * Devuan: The Non-Woke Debian Linux Fork (Without Systemd) * NeoFetch But in Rust and More Gay * Chimera Linux is "Here to Further Woke Agenda by Turning Free Software Gay" * Are Jews the Cause of DEI in Big Tech? Yeah .. I did not watch a single video of his. But just from a short…

what's especially strange to me is that in the more distant past, he was a pretty normal guy - at least as normal as any other linux user. Heck, he had a super great podcast (Linux Action Show). Something changed in the 2014ish time-frame when it got more and more politically extreme.

what do you think changed culturally around 2014 (I'd say it started a little earlier, maybe 2011)?
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