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Re: ThinkNext Design

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Post by wink »

nirui wrote: post #33
tasuki wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've had a X1 since 2017. The CPU is pretty weak, but it's still solid overall. Still on the original battery too (yes the capacity has gone down from 57 Wh to 25 Wh). I've gotten other computers through work since, but the X1 is still my favourite laptop! In fact I'm typing on it now.

I'm curious how much slowdown a "weak" CPU can cause for real-life programming task, assuming the CPU is at least gen 4 Intel. I never used a mobile/power-efficient CPU myself, but I do use old CPUs. For example, this I5-4210M on my T440p, it's obviously not fast compare to newer ones, but when writing code on it (Go and a bit of Rust), I don't really feel a day-or-night level difference. Sure, it's slower, but not u…

Anecdata: I've never experienced any noticeable annoyance with my T470p (i7-6820HQ) but with my new (old) NUC with an i3-3217U every time you go compile some Rust or C++ it's already a bit annoying (I'm running xfce and Firefox on it, it's perfectly usable - but I wouldn't want to compile all day on it).

Re: ThinkNext Design

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Post by patapong »

dgxyz wrote: post #40
vkazanov wrote: post #30

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I wouldn't suggest going for a recent X1 as there are some driver issues on Linux. My current one is a Thinkpad 14s AMD. As somebody who had most smaller Thinkpads and Dells in the last 15 years, this is my favourite machine so far: great battery, a decent GPU, still a Thinkpad, perfect Linux support.

Which generation is that T14s? I am in the market for a new one.

I got the T14s Gen 4 AMD recently - very happy with it, great battery life, no notch and very fast.

Re: ThinkNext Design

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Post by sshprotocol »

roughly wrote: post #94

If this is spiking some nostalgia for anyone, there’s a bit of a cottage industry in modernized motherboards for old thinkpads - eg, https://www.tpart.net/about-x210ai/

Do you know if there is any kind of index / forum for these sorts of projects? I'm interested in seeing what's out there for my T420s.

Re: ThinkNext Design

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Post by yencabulator »

WillAdams wrote: post #65

For the real background here see: _Thinkpad: A Different Shade of Blue_ by Deborah A. Dell and J. Gerry Purdy https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/483933.ThinkPad I've always regretted not getting one of the tablet Thinkpads, and it kills me that the Lenovo Yogabook 9i is two technologies away from being perfect for me (needs to have a Wacom EMR stylus, and to have a Trackpoint)....

I had a rotating-display Thinkpad 2-in-1, and I think the design peaked in the model previous to that, the X1 Carbon.

Re: ThinkNext Design

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Post by arianvanp »

kiddico wrote: post #106
arianvanp wrote: post #36

I used my ThinkPad T430s for 12 years. I got it second hand from a developer I looked up to when I was in college and it carried me through a large part of my career. Loved that machine to death. When I finally replaced it with a Framework a few years back I've regretted every second of it. The ThinkPad still lives. I refurbished the batteries and slapped ChromeOS Flex on it and donated it to a Ukrainian refugee who…

I went through an odd series of emotions reading this lol. ChromeOS made me throw up a bit but the recipient made me smile. May it serve them well.

It was a requirement from the school. Be happy they have one that makes it easy to flash another distro later! :D

Re: ThinkNext Design

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Post by bigpeopleareold »

leipie wrote: post #92
imiric wrote: post #79

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IMO the ThinkPad brand died after IBM sold its PC division. Lenovo has kept it alive because it is a cash cow, but the machines have shoddy build quality and are ludicrously overpriced. My previous X1 Extreme Gen 1 (2018) had annoying coil whine and screen backlight bleed. One of the key caps broke off after a couple of years. Eventually I ended up doing a full keyboard and battery replacement. My current X1 Carbon G…

I have a framework desktop with a ThinkPad TrackPoint II keyboard ;)

I got mine just for the Trackpoint too :D I just use it on my desk though. But I am waiting in the mail for the new Shinobi. There are very few other keyboards on the market with this feature. There is the HHKB Studio, but it's much more expensive and not full-size. But, I didn't look far either. I am not obsessed with mechanical keyboards, so the only thing for me was guessing what switch to use (cherry-mx silent red, they are fine enough :) ) I just hope for no more hacking around to get a stable keyboard. It's been a nuisance.

Re: ThinkNext Design

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Post by bigpeopleareold »

imiric wrote: post #79
bigpeopleareold wrote: post #44

I appreciate all the innovations that him and his team brought to the ThinkPad, since this is my main set of laptops. Lenovo, on the other hand, has been a hit or miss for awhile. I had a T570, which was horrible; one problem after the next. It's just a source of parts now. There are some design issues with the T480 (no center screw in the front/bottom). Also with the T480 is, what it seems to be, the slightly flaky…

IMO the ThinkPad brand died after IBM sold its PC division. Lenovo has kept it alive because it is a cash cow, but the machines have shoddy build quality and are ludicrously overpriced. My previous X1 Extreme Gen 1 (2018) had annoying coil whine and screen backlight bleed. One of the key caps broke off after a couple of years. Eventually I ended up doing a full keyboard and battery replacement. My current X1 Carbon G…

I'll add that my P14s (gen 3) keyboard sticks up in one place. It's not the biggest problem, but this an odd fit problem I never saw on my older ones. Typing on it is not as great either than my other TPs or external, which at least have a longer travel. (the old layout was OK, they key feel was nice, and the T430s felt like the best laptop keyboard I had used)

Re: ThinkNext Design

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Post by ezst »

nullhole wrote: post #42
ezst wrote: post #9

My ThinkPad (T480s) is turning 8 this year, and only got its first battery replacement last month. I've been carrying it with me everywhere, on every single trip (office or holidays alike), on all continents. In that same timespan, I used up 3 backpacks and 2 suitcases along the same routes. All I want for its replacement is not to cost an insane amount of money because of the made-up by AI components shortage, and m…

Where did you get the battery? Lenovo no longer sells T480 batteries afaict, and 3rd party vendors are a (dangerous) crapshoot.

i-fixit sells Lenovo batteries, FYI. They may show as out of stock, but they replenish occasionally and you can be notified when that happens.

Re: ThinkNext Design

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Post by WillAdams »

yencabulator wrote: post #134
WillAdams wrote: post #65

For the real background here see: _Thinkpad: A Different Shade of Blue_ by Deborah A. Dell and J. Gerry Purdy https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/483933.ThinkPad I've always regretted not getting one of the tablet Thinkpads, and it kills me that the Lenovo Yogabook 9i is two technologies away from being perfect for me (needs to have a Wacom EMR stylus, and to have a Trackpoint)....

I had a rotating-display Thinkpad 2-in-1, and I think the design peaked in the model previous to that, the X1 Carbon.

I have a preference for using a stylus, and kind of wish I could go back to the previous gen stylus tech and use an X230T (or that there would be an update of that model, or an easy way to replace the digitizer for the newer styluses).
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