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The 'untouchable hacker god' behind Finland's biggest crime

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Re: The 'untouchable hacker god' behind Finland's biggest crime

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The Internet is the ultimate low-trust society. Your virtual doorstep is right next to ~8 billion other peoples' doorsteps. And attributing attacks and enforcing consequences is extremely difficult and rather unusual. When people from high-trust societies move to a low-trust society, they either adapt to their new environment and take an appropriately defensive posture or they will get robbed, scammed, etc. Those naï…

We can start by stopping the use of posture like you’re squirming in your seat. I’ve heard that term for the last 10 years and never has it been useful. Policy yes, Practice if you must, Mandate absolutely, Governance required. Using posture is a kin to modeling or showing off clothes, the likes of which will never see the streets. Let’s all start agreeing that the term is a rug cover for whatever security wants it t…

It's a generic, albeit somewhat euphemistic term. I agree we could do with some better messaging. Dirty and direct is usually more effective. How about this framing?

The Internet is a dark street in rural India and your dumbass company is a pretty young white woman walking around naked and alone at 2AM. It's not your fault morally if someone rapes you, but objectively you're an idiot if you do not expect it. Now, you getting raped doesn't just hurt you; it primarily hurts people your company stores data about. Those rapists aren't going away, so we need you to take basic precautions against getting raped and we're gonna hold you accountable for doing dumb shit that predictably leads you to getting raped.

> If your posture is having your rear end exposed and up in public then…

Right, that is most companies' current security posture: Naked butt waving in the air. "Improving your security posture" is just a euphemism for "pull your pants up and put your butt down".

> Using posture is a kin to modeling or showing off clothes, the likes of which will never see the streets. Let’s all start agreeing that the term is a rug cover for whatever security wants it to be. Without checks and balances.

No, I will not agree with that; that's ridiculous. "Improve [y]our security posture" is not some magic talisman used to seize unchecked power within an organization. It's basically just the Obama Doctrine brought to computer security: "Don't do stupid shit".

Re: The 'untouchable hacker god' behind Finland's biggest crime

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I find it strange to report on a hacker releasing personal information, while building the narrative of the story with all of the personal details like "she’d had three children by the time she was 25, including twins who had been born extremely prematurely in the 1980s, weighing only a few hundred grams each", "crumbling marriage", and suicidal ideations. I thought the whole point is that they were upset that their…

probably because the secrets released were much more confidential and serious than that?

Re: The 'untouchable hacker god' behind Finland's biggest crime

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It’s really not a good idea to be posting about your case when it hasn’t even been resolved yet.

I do have access to excellent legal advice, strive to live by it.

> I do have access to excellent legal advice, strive to live by it.

Says the guy that went on a news broadcast (unmasked) to brag about hacking Sony.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPX8yCBdIZ8

Re: The 'untouchable hacker god' behind Finland's biggest crime

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I do have access to excellent legal advice, strive to live by it.

> I do have access to excellent legal advice, strive to live by it. Says the guy that went on a news broadcast (unmasked) to brag about hacking Sony. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPX8yCBdIZ8

I was 17 at the time :) And FWIW, the whole joke there was that neither me nor the other guy being interviewed had anything at all to do with the attacks on PSN and XBL.

Re: The 'untouchable hacker god' behind Finland's biggest crime

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I do have access to excellent legal advice, strive to live by it.

Well, judging by this thread, it doesn’t seem like it.

Yes, I'm sure my comments here are just full of terribly damaging stuff.

Not sure what the theory here is. Am I supposed to worry about the judges stalking me online and reading my HN comments professing innocence?

The prosecutors couldn't, and wouldn't even want to use anything I've written here, especially considering the trial is over and they can't just file new evidence.

Re: The 'untouchable hacker god' behind Finland's biggest crime

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> So they're saying this is not the case? Yes it was. The company was fined 20M EUR on standard GDPR-basis and went bankrupt (but unlikely due to the fine alone). Please re-read the above discussion.

The GDPR fine was 608k https://www.edpb.europa.eu/news/national-news/2022/administr...

I stand corrected.

Re: The 'untouchable hacker god' behind Finland's biggest crime

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I find it strange to report on a hacker releasing personal information, while building the narrative of the story with all of the personal details like "she’d had three children by the time she was 25, including twins who had been born extremely prematurely in the 1980s, weighing only a few hundred grams each", "crumbling marriage", and suicidal ideations. I thought the whole point is that they were upset that their…

probably because the secrets released were much more confidential and serious than that?

Also consent.

Wait for the other person to do so willingly seems kinda good advice in many areas.

Re: The 'untouchable hacker god' behind Finland's biggest crime

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Literally invented the term ”cat burglar” lol! Commenter above is British too so it’s hilarious he thinks burglary isn’t a thing.

I am English. It took me all of like 30 seconds to look up the relevant law using Google. Most of Anglosphere has a definition of Burglary that is essentially the same and I suspect it is the same in Europe.

Yeah I was referring to higher up the stack. You’re spot on for citing the U.K. law.

Re: The 'untouchable hacker god' behind Finland's biggest crime

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We can start by stopping the use of posture like you’re squirming in your seat. I’ve heard that term for the last 10 years and never has it been useful. Policy yes, Practice if you must, Mandate absolutely, Governance required. Using posture is a kin to modeling or showing off clothes, the likes of which will never see the streets. Let’s all start agreeing that the term is a rug cover for whatever security wants it t…

It's a generic, albeit somewhat euphemistic term. I agree we could do with some better messaging. Dirty and direct is usually more effective. How about this framing? The Internet is a dark street in rural India and your dumbass company is a pretty young white woman walking around naked and alone at 2AM. It's not your fault morally if someone rapes you, but objectively you're an idiot if you do not expect it. Now, you…

“Improve [y]our security posture” absolutely is without a definition of posture. Does that mean more monitoring? More security team members?

Posture is no replacement for a plan.

Originally it was “how we follow our plan” but that has since been thrown out the window. Now, posture is code word for cover.

I don’t mean to vent it’s just tiring having to deal with varying degrees of posturing where everyone is just haphazardly laying on a couch watching TV.

Re: The 'untouchable hacker god' behind Finland's biggest crime

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"the patient records database was accessible via the internet; there was no firewall and, perhaps most egregiously, it was secured with a blank password, so anyone could just press enter and open it" There _should_ be a bunch of people in jail for that. Including, but not limited to the CEO. It should also include all the people on the org chart between whoever set that database up and the CEO.

Exactly, was it a burglary when your front door is open, lights on, spotlights on your wall safe, with the keys still inserted? The CEO should be in prison.

> The CEO should be in prison.

Yes.

> Exactly, was it a burglary when your front door is open, lights on, spotlights on your wall safe, with the keys still inserted?

The thing isn't just the discovery of the "open door", though. Thousands of people were extorted in a pretty heinous way. Even if we say breaking in took little sophistication or effort, what was done with the data also matters.

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