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Anthropic invests $1.5M in the Python Software Foundation

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Re: Anthropic invests $1.5M in the Python Software Foundation

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Python has a terseness that is hard to rival. I think that was a major selling point: its constructs and use of whitespace mean that a valid Python program looks pretty close to the pseudo-code one might write to reason out the problem before writing it in another language.

I doubt that this is the selling point. Imho it is nothing special compared to Haskell, F# and the likes.

Python doesn't require you to understand monads to write useful Python.

To be clear: Haskell is great, but its entire vibe (lazy evaluation, pure functions) is entirely different from what Python's about. Someone who knows C++ or Java has a much bigger gap to jump to pick up Haskell than to pick up Python.

Re: Anthropic invests $1.5M in the Python Software Foundation

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For anyone who isn’t aware/remembering, this is certainly made with the security of PyPi in mind, python’s main package repository. NPM is the other major source of issues (congrats for now, `cargo`!), and TIL that NPM is A) a for-profit startup (??) and B) acquired by Microsoft (????). In that light, this gift seems even more important, as it may help ensure that relative funding differences going forward don’t make…

> (Also makes me wonder if they still have a Microsoft employee running the PSF… always thought that was odd.) You might be confusing the Python Steering Council - responsible for leadership of Python language development - with the PSF non-profit there. The PSF is lead by a full-time executive director who has no other affiliation, plus an elected board of unpaid volunteer directors (I'm one of them). Microsoft empl…

Wow, I didn't know you got a spot on the board, that's a great choice on their part! Thanks for giving your time.

Yes, I was talking about Wages -- the day-to-day is surely complex, but I'm sure you'd agree that the president of the board is ultimately "above" the chief executive if push ever came to shove, at least on paper. I will grant that I used "running", which is quite unclear in hindsight! "Responsible for" or "leading" seems more accurate.

She seemed great as policymaker and person, but when I last checked her job was literally to be Microsoft's Python community liason, and that just struck me as... dangerous? On the nose? Giving the reigns to someone from a for-profit, $1.5B corporation whose entire business depends directly upon the PSF's work also seems like an odd choice. Again, I'm sure they're great as an individual, and during normal operations there's no competing interests so it's fine. It's just...

I guess I just have a vision for the non-profit org guiding the world's most popular programming language that doesn't really mesh with the reality of open source funding as it exists today, at the end of the day; the "no 2 representatives from the same company" rule seems like a comforting sign that they(/y'all!) share that general philosophy despite the circumstances.

Re: Anthropic invests $1.5M in the Python Software Foundation

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Perhaps you should do some research before judging the decision making of the PSF.

He did some research. Now he is validating it. Believe it or not, not all researched information is accurate. And even when it is accurate it isn't always interpreted correctly. It is not sufficient to simply research something. One must also discuss it. That allows revealing what one thinks they know, to help realize what they don't through coordination with others. That is what discussion is for. If he already had…

rare constructive comment!

Re: Anthropic invests $1.5M in the Python Software Foundation

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They are probably trying to build influence. Why is a startup that is burning cash donating money?

They are heavily focused on code. Claude Code likely generates 100 of millions lines of Python a day, make the language a little bit better with $1.5M is extremely high leverage.

Care to elaborate on how $1.5M makes Python better?

Re: Anthropic invests $1.5M in the Python Software Foundation

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Glad to see Anthropic continuing to invest in the longevity and quality of their open-source dependencies! If you missed it, they bought Bun a while back, which is what Claude Code is built in: https://bun.sh/blog/bun-joins-anthropic

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Re: Anthropic invests $1.5M in the Python Software Foundation

#138

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They are heavily focused on code. Claude Code likely generates 100 of millions lines of Python a day, make the language a little bit better with $1.5M is extremely high leverage.

Care to elaborate on how $1.5M makes Python better?

You’re asking how money can be used to improve software?

Re: Anthropic invests $1.5M in the Python Software Foundation

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I did not know you could make donations with a string attached ("improve security")...

Hello! PSF staffer/author of the linked post here. To be explicit, the Anthropic donation is actually "no strings attached," or in non-profit parlance "unrestricted," but with a handshake agreement that they hope to improve security with this sponsorship. So the gift will enable us to do security work we've wanted to do and it is our intention to do that, but Anthropic didn't formally earmark the money, which gives us a great deal more flexibility plus a lower accounting burden, and I'm personally very grateful for that.
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