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How London cracked mobile phone coverage on the Underground

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Re: How London cracked mobile phone coverage on the Underground

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There are a good number of places in the world where people of varied incomes live relatively close.

London tends to get that because it has never really been planned. It just grew over the course of 1600 years and absorbed other areas as it went. There are plenty of areas where a row of £20m+ homes are opposite blocks of 3-bed flats that go for a hundredth of that price. Hundreds of years ago, before the rail or underground network, you still needed plenty of working class to live near where the rich people lived a…

> London tends to get that because it has never really been planned.

Not particularly true.

Go to a city in the world that REALLY has "never been planned", then come back and tell me London hasn't. ;)

Re: How London cracked mobile phone coverage on the Underground

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Just to add a piece of data to support this: > It turns out the phone signal inside the station can be better than the one above ground I was surprised when I noticed I had 5G in the tunnel, ran a speed test and hit 641Mbps down! https://www.speedtest.net/result/i/6831252952

That always hurts. I live in a particularly nice bit of London and there is virtually no mobile phone service other than voice and can only get 80 meg ADSL. Yet the mole people get better service. Grr.

I almost moved into a nice warehouse space in farringdon once only to discover it only got 12 meg service somehow. I didn't even know you could get less than 80meg now.

Re: How London cracked mobile phone coverage on the Underground

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All of that that they did while they sit. I don’t remember people reading the newspapers while slow walking in the middle of a corridor. And the problem with headphones is that they make people unaware of their surrounding, alone in the world, and therefore for instance unaware that there is someone on their left that they will cut the way to. Small incivilities, but repeat several times a day every day and it gets s…

Certainly people would do that. And sending text messages in the 00s. People have been wearing headphones while commuting for a generation, and (not on the underground but certainly on trains) people in the 80s and 90s were far more obnoxious - get stuck on a busy train between people having conversations about inane stuff while smoking. Public transport is far better today than it was 30 years ago, annoyances are fa…

> Public transport is far better today than it was 30 years ago

One exception.

Give me the Routemaster bus back.

The real ones, not the Boris ones.

Those who know, know. ;)

Re: How London cracked mobile phone coverage on the Underground

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There's plenty of riff raff here. Like me :)

That directly goes against the earlier post where you said you lived in a particularly nice part of town

London has a very high ratio of extremely nice houses on a road opposite council houses, or former council houses. There can often be a very large mix of housing in one area.

Re: How London cracked mobile phone coverage on the Underground

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post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All of that that they did while they sit. I don’t remember people reading the newspapers while slow walking in the middle of a corridor. And the problem with headphones is that they make people unaware of their surrounding, alone in the world, and therefore for instance unaware that there is someone on their left that they will cut the way to. Small incivilities, but repeat several times a day every day and it gets s…

Certainly people would do that. And sending text messages in the 00s. People have been wearing headphones while commuting for a generation, and (not on the underground but certainly on trains) people in the 80s and 90s were far more obnoxious - get stuck on a busy train between people having conversations about inane stuff while smoking. Public transport is far better today than it was 30 years ago, annoyances are fa…

People need targets to deflect the anger against themselves. Don’t take that away from them!

Re: How London cracked mobile phone coverage on the Underground

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Pretty neat but as someone who commutes every day on the New York subway I hope it’s never “cracked” here. Phone usage without headphones is already annoying enough and I greatly appreciate the various people trying to take calls eventually lose service.

Who still calls anyway? Literally all my friends exclusively message now (on WhatsApp). It would be really annoying if I were out of touch for the whole duration of subway trips. But in my city it works great. Here the 3 main providers pooled together and shared the installation.

> Literally all my friends exclusively message now (on WhatsApp).

An annoyingly large number of them send audio messages. It’s worse for everyone involved.

Re: How London cracked mobile phone coverage on the Underground

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I'm old enough to remember the first attempt at 'mobile underground'. Maybe I've forgotten the name but it was something like BT Phone Zone, though google returns zero relevant results, so perhaps it was called something else. In lieu of public call boxes, BT trialled a base station that was installed in some tube stations (almost certainly Oxford St and Tottenham Court Rd), and with the correct 'wireless handset' as…

Whilst I have seen the Rabbit fittings others have mentioned I do remember mention of a "zone phone" and suspect we're recalling the same thing...

Re: How London cracked mobile phone coverage on the Underground

#138

I'm old enough to remember the first attempt at 'mobile underground'. Maybe I've forgotten the name but it was something like BT Phone Zone, though google returns zero relevant results, so perhaps it was called something else. In lieu of public call boxes, BT trialled a base station that was installed in some tube stations (almost certainly Oxford St and Tottenham Court Rd), and with the correct 'wireless handset' as…

Whilst I have seen the Rabbit fittings others have mentioned I do remember mention of a "zone phone" and suspect we're recalling the same thing...

Maybe this?

https://sites.google.com/site/616cellnet/ct2

Re: How London cracked mobile phone coverage on the Underground

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That directly goes against the earlier post where you said you lived in a particularly nice part of town

London has a very high ratio of extremely nice houses on a road opposite council houses, or former council houses. There can often be a very large mix of housing in one area.

FWIW ancient Rome was also like this, and for example in Pompeii you can find extremely fancy houses with frescoed dining rooms right next door to single room hovels. They didn't have subways or mobile phones though.

Re: How London cracked mobile phone coverage on the Underground

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post #5

Pretty neat but as someone who commutes every day on the New York subway I hope it’s never “cracked” here. Phone usage without headphones is already annoying enough and I greatly appreciate the various people trying to take calls eventually lose service.

Somehow even though there's great cell coverage in Warsaw metro people aren't being obnoxious with it.

Same in Munich
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