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Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients

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Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients

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Post by themafia »

nerdjon wrote: post #29

I am sure the company is going to get very upset at people no longer paying who were using their product in a way that they did not intend. Just going to be heartbroken. I will never understand the people that make a big deal about "I will never support this business again because of x" when X not something the company ever officially said they cared about. In all seriousness, I really don't think it should be a cont…

> I will never understand the people that make a big deal

> It is up to the user to determine if that is acceptable or not.

It sounds like you understand it perfectly.

Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients

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Post by notahacker »

johnpaulkiser wrote: post #128
Terretta wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a user of Claude Code via API (the expensive way), Anthrophic's "huge mistake" is capping monthly spend (billed in advance and pay as you go some $500 - $1500 at a time, by credit card) at just $5,000 a month. It's a supposedly professional tool with a value proposition that requires being in your work flow. Are you going to keep using a power drill on your construction site that bricks itself the last week or two…

This sounds like a stop loss? Are they losing money per token even through the api?

Sounds plausible they're not really making any. Arbitrary and inflexible pricing policies aren't unusual, but it sounds easy enough for a new rapidly-growing company to let the account managers decide which companies they might have a chance of upselling 150 seat enterprise licenses to and just bill overage for everyone else...

Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients

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Post by djvdq »

ndespres wrote: post #113
zitterbewegung wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I rather have a product that is only good at one single thing than mid for everything else especially when the developer experience for me is much more consistent than using gemini and chatgpt to the point that I only have chatgpt for productivity reasons and also sometimes making better prompts to claude (when I don't use claude to make a better prompt). After realizing that Anthropic is discounting token usages for…

You’re asking two different LLMs to help you talk more better to another LLM?

This sounds like way too much for me.

I wonder when they will add another level and talk to LLM how to talk to another LLM how to talk to another LLM

Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients

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Post by gausswho »

When the only winning move is corner-the-market, the only way for the customer to win is not to play the game. I'll take my token-money elsewhere.

That said, the author is deluding themselves if they think OpenAI is supporting OpenCode in earnest. Unlike Anthropic, they don't have explicit usage limits. It's a 'we'll let you use our service as long as we want' kind of subscription.

I got a paid plan with GPT 5.2 and after a day of usage was just told 'try again in a week'. Then in a week I hit it again and didn't even get a time estimate. I wasn't even doing anything heavy or high reasoning. It's not a dependable service.

Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients

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Post by eikenberry »

fathermarz wrote: post #44

After reading this opinion ten times today. Can someone explain to me why OpenCode is a “better harness”? Or is it just because it’s open source that people support it?

No matter what the answer to the question is.. IMO "just" is out of place here. Being free/open source software is a big deal, particularly for a developer tool.

Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients

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Post by stefan_ »

sergiotapia wrote: post #101
ojosilva wrote: post #28

They did not. Anthropic is protecting its huge asset: the Claude Code value chain, which has proven itself to be a winner among devs (me included, after trying everything under the sun in 2025). If anything, Anthropic's mistake is that they are incapable of monetizing their great models in the chat market, where ChatGPT reigns: ie. Anthropic did not invest in image generation, Google did and Gemini has a shot at the…

The model is the best. The CLI tool is terrible compared to opencode. That is the unfortunate reality, we are now being foisted claude code. :( I wish they just fork opencode.

It's crazy how bad the interface it is. I'm generally a fan of the model performance but there is not a day where their CLI will not flash random parts of scrollback or have a second of input lag just typing in the initial prompt (how is that even possible? you are not doing anything?). If this is their "premier tool" no vending machine business can save them.

Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients

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Post by shepherdjerred »

gpm wrote: post #106
ojosilva wrote: post #28

They did not. Anthropic is protecting its huge asset: the Claude Code value chain, which has proven itself to be a winner among devs (me included, after trying everything under the sun in 2025). If anything, Anthropic's mistake is that they are incapable of monetizing their great models in the chat market, where ChatGPT reigns: ie. Anthropic did not invest in image generation, Google did and Gemini has a shot at the…

The problem the second you stop subsidizing Claude Code and start making money on it the incentive to use it over opencode disappears. If opencode is the better tool than claude code - and that's the reason people are using their claude subscription with it instead of claude code - people will end up switching to it. Maybe they can hope to murder opencode in the meantime with predatory pricing and build an advantage…

It’s possible that tokens become cheap enough that they don’t need to raise prices to make a profit. The latest opus is 3x less expensive than the previous.

Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients

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Post by shepherdjerred »

arjie wrote: post #126

As a Claude Code user (on the Max $200 plan), I think this is fine. Already I frequently receive: API Error: 529 {"type":"error","error":{"type":"overloaded_error","message":"Overloade d"},"request_id":"req_011CX42ZX2u If they want to prioritize direct Anthropic users like me, that's fine. Availability is a feature to me.

I use Claude Code quite a bit and have never seen this
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