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Self hosting my media library with Jellyfin and Wireguard on Hetzner

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Re: Self hosting my media library with Jellyfin and Wireguard on Hetzner

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Post by Yodel0914 »

aeturnum wrote: post #29

There are lots of reasons to dislike Spotify but a frustration of mine with the "I ditched Spotify" discourse is that it hides the ball. As this article quietly acknowledges at the end: ditching streaming services either means spending a lot more money or listening to a lot less music. To be clear I think either option is fine, but those seem like the important aspects of the change. If you are going to spend 10x mor…

That probably depends on how you listen to music. I still have a qobuz family subscription but barely use it. Mostly I listen to new albums on Bandcamp, and if I like them enough, I buy them.

I bought ~20 albums last year, which I guess would have been about the same price as my qobuz subscription.

One caveat is that I do have ~300 CDs from the pre-streaming era, which I’ve ripped. If you were starting from zero I can see it’d be a bigger issue, but TBH I mostly listen to new albums anyway.

Re: Self hosting my media library with Jellyfin and Wireguard on Hetzner

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Post by hecanjog »

hbn wrote: post #32
cdrnsf wrote: post #2

It's worth the effort to host your own media. There are privacy benefits, you own the audio files (presumably) and are no longer hostage to a platform that cares little (if at all) about artists.

Of all the privacy concerns in my life these days, corporations knowing about my music taste is not cracking the top 1000. In fact Instagram ads have led me to discover some fantastic small artists, so I'll happily give that out to whoever cares. I'm sure it works fine if you've basically settled on what music you like and never listen to anything new, but if you do like to discover new music, self-hosting just isn't…

> if you do like to discover new music, self-hosting just isn't an option

Sure it is. Music discovery via algorithmic services is not the only way. There's radio, talking to people who have similar interests, reading interviews with musicians who talk about other music they like, browsing selections at the library, reading books about music or musicians, even just reading the liner notes for an album, noticing some players you like and finding other things they've worked on, and on and on and on. It doesn't have to be high effort, it's not instant, but it works great.

Re: Self hosting my media library with Jellyfin and Wireguard on Hetzner

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Post by electroglyph »

hydrogen7800 wrote: post #102
xp84 wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow. The ghost artists - that’s horrifying. Clearly Spotify would prefer to completely squeeze out everybody below the clout level of the top 10 artists, and replace the rest with stock music. I would bet anything they’ll cut out the middle-artist any day now and fill their playlists with AI sloptunes. Spotify really wants to convert music into a commodity they can buy cheaply, own, and sell to an indifferent audienc…

>Now the sound music comes in silver pills >Engineered to suit you, building cheaper thrills >Music of rebellion makes you wanna rage >But it's made by millionaires who are nearly twice your age The Sound of Muzak by Porcupine Tree (2002)

Great band!

Re: Self hosting my media library with Jellyfin and Wireguard on Hetzner

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Post by Yodel0914 »

didip wrote: post #25

Dumb question, where do you actually buy digital copy of music these days? Or find a big library of music that you can download.

Bandcamp, and when what I want isn’t there, qobuz usually has it. A couple of times I’ve had to buy the CD off eBay and rip it.

Re: Self hosting my media library with Jellyfin and Wireguard on Hetzner

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Post by Yodel0914 »

mrweasel wrote: post #17

What do people do to stream to their phones. The article just mentions Wireguard, but how is the media actually played?

I use Manet as a music player an tailscale to have access to my home server. Before I tailscale set up, I’d just download what I wanted to my phone before leaving home.

Re: Self hosting my media library with Jellyfin and Wireguard on Hetzner

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Post by l72 »

With regards to keeping the service behind a VPN, I have a few questions:

1. How do you deal with various devices (Roku, Smart TVs, ...), as most don't seem to have VPN apps for them?

2. How do you deal with airplay? My ipad can VPN to my home network and access jellyfin when I am away, but Airplay doesn't work, as the stream isn't available to the device I am streaming to.

My jellyfin (and navidrome) on my home server has me very happy with the basic set up. Both are internal only, as the only service I expose is wireguard. But I haven't solved the two issues above, which also keeps me from being able to share my jellyfin with my family.

Re: Self hosting my media library with Jellyfin and Wireguard on Hetzner

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Post by pests »

zihotki wrote: post #42
rurban wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Youtube has much more music than Spotify, is better sorted by Albums (without holes, no skips) and you can easily rip it. It has all the better obscure artists, Spotify delisted. There's also a recommendation engine via YouTube Music.

And once you start listening there, your video suggestions feed becomes a music feed thus degrade the video experience. Vids and music must be separate

I am a heavy YT user and recently started using YTMusic and noticed no change in my main feeds.

Re: Self hosting my media library with Jellyfin and Wireguard on Hetzner

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Post by modernerd »

joecool1029 wrote: post #96
modernerd wrote: post #48

I buy my music from Bandcamp and similar and drop it into YouTube Music. It supports up to 100k uploads and you can stream and/or download your uploads on web/iOS/iPadOS etc. https://support.google.com/youtubemusic/answer/9716522?hl=en It's not as independent but if you're already paying for YouTube Premium it seems reasonable if you don't want to host your own media server.

> It supports up to 100k uploads and you can stream and/or download your uploads on web/iOS/iPadOS etc. https://support.google.com/youtubemusic/answer/9716522?hl=en TIL they somewhat resurrected Google Music and raised the limit (I think it was 20k on that). I used Google Music for years because it seemed like only Spotify and them figured out reliable caching on mobile, other services when I'd lose signal they'd giv…

YouTube Music has been good so far, I’m able to trust that things I download will still be there off network.

The UX isn’t perfect (still see a ‘download’ option for things already downloaded, for example) but it’s not terrible.

I still miss my iPod from time to time, though.

Re: Self hosting my media library with Jellyfin and Wireguard on Hetzner

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Post by pests »

modernerd wrote: post #48

I buy my music from Bandcamp and similar and drop it into YouTube Music. It supports up to 100k uploads and you can stream and/or download your uploads on web/iOS/iPadOS etc. https://support.google.com/youtubemusic/answer/9716522?hl=en It's not as independent but if you're already paying for YouTube Premium it seems reasonable if you don't want to host your own media server.

From the link:

You can play uploaded songs in the background, ad-free and offline—even if you are not currently a YouTube Music Premium subscriber.

Did not expect that.

Re: Self hosting my media library with Jellyfin and Wireguard on Hetzner

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Post by wiredpancake »

jaredcwhite wrote: post #36

Never used Spotify, never will. I also, as a producer, pulled my music off that service a long time ago. I'm also not very happy with Apple Music anymore either. The lack of UX care regarding the service is noticeable. It suffers from weird bugs and tracks which suddenly won't play all the time. This is not the Apple which lovingly created the first few versions of iTunes. So I've started to collect a solid collectio…

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