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The unbearable joy of sitting alone in a café

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Re: The unbearable joy of sitting alone in a café

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post #102

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> (is it an American thing?) I don't know if the author is American but americanos are not an American thing so they are likely not in the US.

Challenge: Find a coffee shop in the US that doesn't have Americano on the menu.

I guess my idea of US coffeeshops is dated.

Re: The unbearable joy of sitting alone in a café

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planet fitness is my area is $15/month and I still would not pay it

Why?

you do not need a gym to work out so it is just a waste of money. I used to have membership at Bally’s when I was single but that was for meeting girls, not for working out. I don’t understand people paying money to go to gyms these days for the purposes of working out

Re: The unbearable joy of sitting alone in a café

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For me, the issue is not being alone, or quiet. I don't even own a cell phone. It's everyone else with the incessant noise; non-stop music; speaker/video calls; and now AI talking back to you via phone. Speakerphones are the worst, I cannot believe we normalized having a two way conversation via speakerphone while holding it up to your ear. I used to enjoy nature and just sitting and staring, with portable bluetooth…

> I cannot believe we normalized having a two way conversation via speakerphone while holding it up to your ear.

It's not normal, those people are rude.

Re: The unbearable joy of sitting alone in a café

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post #69

Too many negative comments here. This is just someone discovering something new and sharing it very excitedly. Almost 6-7 years ago, I read about a 30min challenge to sit upright without doing anything in a chair challenge. That changed how I think about distractions. If I had written about it, there surely will be people who would just like here say... What is so crazy about it? I do that all the time... To me, this…

Trying to sit still for 30 min without any stimulation at all (no talking, watching, reading) sounds like torture to me.

Then dont sit still for 30 mins - try doing it for 3 minutes at first. If you feel like it, repeat the next day with either the same or longer length. Or dont do it at all. If you do - think of it as a kind of a meditation, without the extra steps. Some isolation from sensory stimulation is good for your brain - there is growing evidence we are all over exposed to attention-robbing mechanisms of the digital world.

Re: The unbearable joy of sitting alone in a café

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post #69

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Trying to sit still for 30 min without any stimulation at all (no talking, watching, reading) sounds like torture to me.

Some people just call this "meditation".

Not if you freely engage in rumination. Meditation is not just sitting with your thoughts.

Re: The unbearable joy of sitting alone in a café

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post #5

Japan is not the ideal place I would go to for a cafe, but I get the sentiment. When the weather is nice I love going for a morning walk with my dog on a lazy weekend morning and just sitting outside at a cafe reading a book. Coffee itself is secondary to this experience, it’s mostly just the vibe of the place that brings me there. That’s why small local cafes that don’t like people to sit at tables for too long are…

I disagree. Japan is the ideal place. Kissaten are a cultural treasure. Craig Mod has written at length about them and why they are so precious. I go to cafes strictly for the vibe, and I have fond memories of Japanese cafes.

Re: The unbearable joy of sitting alone in a café

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post #18

I assume there must be a finite amount of anxiety from sole cafe trips. I'm probably an above averagely anxious person, but after a few trips without disaster, it becomes a non issue.

> after a few trips without disaster 100%. Exposure therapy is the cure for anxiety. I have a personal hunch that part of the massive rise in anxiety in the world is explained by many of us no longer being regularly forced outside of our comfort zones. Before the Internet and smartphones, we were obligated to go into the unknown much more often. It was a constant mandatory exposure therapy. Today, I can't remember th…

> Exposure therapy is the cure for anxiety.

Except when it is not. Exposure can make an autistic person's anxiety worse.

Re: The unbearable joy of sitting alone in a café

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post #82
post #69

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Trying to sit still for 30 min without any stimulation at all (no talking, watching, reading) sounds like torture to me.

It starts like that. Work up to 30 minutes, start with 5. The mind has an uncanny ability to entertain itself when it’s bored but paying attention.

You also find out how much noise your brain filters.

You end up hearing conversations more clearly, environmental noises you wouldn't normally hear and I find more clarity for the environmental area.

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