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Sergey Brin's Unretirement

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Re: Sergey Brin's Unretirement

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Post by socalgal2 »

tock wrote: post #100

It was interesting to see my dad retire. He struggled a lot initially and even went back to work for a while. He had to actively work on learning to enjoy his hobbies and time once again.

I don’t find hobbies to be a replacement for work. Maybe it depends on the hobby but many hobbies are solo. work, or work that I enjoy, is not. Accomplishing things with others and for others has its on motivation for me at least

Of course maybe your hobbies or your dad’s hobbies are social. when someone says “hobbies” to me I generally think of things done mostly alone and I know for me, that’s not enough

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Post by InMice »

rokhayakebe wrote: post #41

Humans spent thousands of years living in small groups where everyone had to be useful. When all of sudden you stop working and sit in your corner, you are doing something that run against thousands of years of evolution.

I scrolled this whole thread curious if someone would make this simple observation. We did not survive and evolve for millions of years to be born and then do nothing, to not meet needs and have needs met. Historical precedent, tamper with carefully.

I am partial fire and I feel that line of demarcation personally. I've also watched it play out in others like clockwork. As wealth grows, new responsibilities emerge.

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Post by skibidithink »

leoc wrote: post #108
siliconc0w wrote: post #79

Sergey is brilliant but it's really the lightsaber that is super voting shares that make him uniquely empowered to slash through Google's immense bureaucracy.

Brin wasn’t bothered to wield any of that power to try to arrest the decline in Google’s search quality. He wasn’t bothered to direct the Chrome team to support MathML, or to bring back Google Reader, or do anything about a hundred small insults like, say, the deletion of YouTube comments with URLs to keep the rubes inside the casino. But he was able and willing to come back and wield his clout because he was bored a…

He saw AI as an existential threat to Google.

Re: Sergey Brin's Unretirement

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Post by eru »

m348e912 wrote: post #38
LarsDu88 wrote: post #26

Sergey unretires, Gemini suddenly becomes the top LLM (for a week or two at least) Google has made some subtle moves that a lot of folks missed, possibly with Sergey's influence. Like hiring back Noam Shazeer, who practically invented the backbone of the technology. It's good to have folks with presumptions of being scientists actually run companies for once. That being said, I wish his ex-wife hadn't spent her milli…

I don't know who to credit, maybe it's Sergey, but the free Gemini (fast) is exceptional and at this point I don't see how OpenAI can catch back up. It's not just capability, but OpenAI have added so many policy guardrails it hurts the user experience.

> [...] I don't see how OpenAI can catch back up.

For a while people couldn't see how Google could catch up, either. Have a bit of imagination.

In any case, I welcome the renewed intense competition.

Re: Sergey Brin's Unretirement

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Post by awendt »

senorqa wrote: post #114

> Sergey Brin’s lesson for the rest of us Is it? I know people who are really happy without doing much in their retirement. Probably because they weren't workaholics. To my mind, if one doesn't have hobbies during the working years, then they will struggle to find purpose when they retite.

This! People need to get a life. I wouldn't have any trouble keeping myself busy after retirement. I do not have nearly enough time for the things I really WANT to do beside work.

Re: Sergey Brin's Unretirement

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Post by bigyabai »

leoc wrote: post #108
siliconc0w wrote: post #79

Sergey is brilliant but it's really the lightsaber that is super voting shares that make him uniquely empowered to slash through Google's immense bureaucracy.

Brin wasn’t bothered to wield any of that power to try to arrest the decline in Google’s search quality. He wasn’t bothered to direct the Chrome team to support MathML, or to bring back Google Reader, or do anything about a hundred small insults like, say, the deletion of YouTube comments with URLs to keep the rubes inside the casino. But he was able and willing to come back and wield his clout because he was bored a…

That's great and all, but you're anthropomorphizing the advertisement company.

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Post by MagicMoonlight »

neilv wrote: post #103
ngcazz wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While Brin comes back to Google to advocate for 60h workweeks as it lays off thousands of employees.

I'd be happy to do 60-hour weeks of good work, in a good environment. I wouldn't want 60-hour weeks of dealing with a lot of promotion-seekers, though. I wonder how different Google would be if they'd just paid people enough money they didn't have to think about money, but it was the same amount of money to everyone. You do the work, not for promotions, but because you like doing the work. You can train up for and tr…

Why would I want to be paid the same amount as any moron that gets in? What motivation is there for me to work hard?

Re: Sergey Brin's Unretirement

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Post by rcMgD2BwE72F »

l5870uoo9y wrote: post #137

It sounds similar to people living long-term on welfare in Denmark. They have food and housing, but their life is devoid of meaning.

Then it's the best incentive to change your life and find a new meaning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mole:_Undercover_in_North_...

Re: Sergey Brin's Unretirement

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Post by YouAreWRONGtoo »

leoc wrote: post #108
siliconc0w wrote: post #79

Sergey is brilliant but it's really the lightsaber that is super voting shares that make him uniquely empowered to slash through Google's immense bureaucracy.

Brin wasn’t bothered to wield any of that power to try to arrest the decline in Google’s search quality. He wasn’t bothered to direct the Chrome team to support MathML, or to bring back Google Reader, or do anything about a hundred small insults like, say, the deletion of YouTube comments with URLs to keep the rubes inside the casino. But he was able and willing to come back and wield his clout because he was bored a…

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