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Nvidia just paid $20B for a company that missed its revenue target by 75%

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Post by bdangubic »

wredcoll wrote: post #108
bdangubic wrote: post #73

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how exactly is different…? I give you Trump, you give me Biden. I give you Scott, you give me Pelosi. I give you Bush, you give me Clinton… it is not different but regardless of whether it is or isn’t no one is defending it. it is just a disservice to everyone to think somehow magically things are all this different now than before, same crap different toilet paper

Ok, give me biden. Where are his lists of corruption scandals[1]? His public statements about taking bribes? I'm not quite sure how to explain this very obvious point: biden and his government was not corrupt in any meaningful sense and trump and his government is extremely corrupt and pretending that they're the same is both factually wrong and has the effect of protecting trump and his corruption. The point isn't t…

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Post by bdangubic »

wredcoll wrote: post #112
bdangubic wrote: post #105

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I love the spirit of your comments but IMO it is misguided The US used to have values. It was a country that was at least trying to be the good guy. This really is all wrong. One might think this based on pitches from different times but all Empires are evil by their definition and America has always been that, always

> This really is all wrong. One might think this based on pitches from different times but all Empires are evil by their definition and America has always been that, always Again, the problem with this train of logic is you inevitable condemn everyone and everything as evil, at which point the word completely loses its meaning. Evil is only useful as a term if there are actually things that are not evil. America has…

> It's also done moral, beautiful and even heroic things

give me a list of these “beautiful and heroic things” - very interested to read them

Re: Nvidia just paid $20B for a company that missed its revenue target by 75%

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Post by bdangubic »

breppp wrote: post #117
wkat4242 wrote: post #89

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It's different because it's all about that now. The Clintons had their scandals, the "pay to play" lists etc. We all know they are in bed with the moneymen. But it didn't define their administration, and they were pretty hush-hush about it. Trump on the other hand is completely open about this. He even brags about making money from deals, something that was previously considered a huge conflict of interest. He appoin…

The major difference is the disappearance of shame. However, the greatest enablement was the overblown cynicism large swaths of the american elites had towards the national proclaimed values. When you think everything is cynical even when it is not then the next step is to have governments that are completely cynical.

so it is shame that is important? As long as we are shameful of corruption etc it is good but once the shame goes away we gonna draw the line?

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Post by arcatech »

bdangubic wrote: post #129
Tadpole9181 wrote: post #128

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nope, I just don’t fall for the sensantionalism and clickbait shit like “oh oh shit is really bad now, OMG we were such a sancuary before but look at us now…”

Nobody in these comments has said that. You keep arguing against something that isn't being said here.

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Post by wyldfire »

bdangubic wrote: post #122
wyldfire wrote: post #113

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> the government has been for sale for a long time The government has been under significant influence of corporations for a long time: this is true. But now bribes are being accepted unabashedly. Presumably, hopefully, this won't last beyond the current administration. To equate the two is dishonest.

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Post by bdangubic »

arcatech wrote: post #134
bdangubic wrote: post #129

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nope, I just don’t fall for the sensantionalism and clickbait shit like “oh oh shit is really bad now, OMG we were such a sancuary before but look at us now…”

Nobody in these comments has said that. You keep arguing against something that isn't being said here.

> what they're saying is that it has gotten so bad now that the crimes are being committed constantly and in the open with no fear or worry that anything bad will ever happen.

this is all false and coming from your own echochamber. it has always been this way, just now you read to much shit on your social media feed and getting all upset how sky is falling, democracy is dying, shit real bad now…

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Post by bdangubic »

solumunus wrote: post #87
bdangubic wrote: post #52

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the window is un-limited so there is not rush. the government has been for sale for a long time and will continue to be so regardless of who is “running the country”

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yes

Re: Nvidia just paid $20B for a company that missed its revenue target by 75%

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Post by wredcoll »

bdangubic wrote: post #132
wredcoll wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This really is all wrong. One might think this based on pitches from different times but all Empires are evil by their definition and America has always been that, always Again, the problem with this train of logic is you inevitable condemn everyone and everything as evil, at which point the word completely loses its meaning. Evil is only useful as a term if there are actually things that are not evil. America has…

> It's also done moral, beautiful and even heroic things give me a list of these “beautiful and heroic things” - very interested to read them

Ok, I'll play:

> We estimate that over the past two decades, USAID-funded programmes have helped prevent more than 91 million deaths globally, including 30 million deaths among children.

How about that? Or are you going to come up with some excuse that somewhere, somehow, an american also benefitted from saving all these lives and therefor it doesn't count?

[1] https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6...

Re: Nvidia just paid $20B for a company that missed its revenue target by 75%

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Post by wredcoll »

bdangubic wrote: post #133
breppp wrote: post #117

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The major difference is the disappearance of shame. However, the greatest enablement was the overblown cynicism large swaths of the american elites had towards the national proclaimed values. When you think everything is cynical even when it is not then the next step is to have governments that are completely cynical.

so it is shame that is important? As long as we are shameful of corruption etc it is good but once the shame goes away we gonna draw the line?

No, what they said is we had less corruption when people were ashamed of it.
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