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James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

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Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

#131

You can do a while lifetimes work, and yet sometimes it's a tiny action like this which can have the biggest benefit to mankind. Just think how many billions of times someone has avoided pulling up to the wrong side of the pump because of this arrow - literal lifetimes of effort saved.

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Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

#132

You can do a while lifetimes work, and yet sometimes it's a tiny action like this which can have the biggest benefit to mankind. Just think how many billions of times someone has avoided pulling up to the wrong side of the pump because of this arrow - literal lifetimes of effort saved.

What's wrong with pulling up to the wrong side of the pump? I do it all the time when the petrol station is busy, just pull the hose over to the other side and fuel the car anyway.

just because there's nothing particularly wrong with only getting the usb in on the 3rd try doesn't mean it's not a minor inconvenience worth resolving.

but if you want a more dramatic example, it's right there in the text: Moylan got soaked because of this inconvenience. if he'd gotten a pneumonia as a result of this and died, then that is suddenly much more than a minor inconvenience.

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

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post #91

2020s UX "experts" would bury the entire instrument cluster under a hamburger menu if they could get away with it. The fuel gauge would be moved three menus deep and thus impossible to find, then removed in subsequent model years when their telemetry data "proved" no one used it anymore.

Most of the instrument cluster is superfluous. My 81 Vanagon has only these and it's fine: Speedometer (which starts at 10 mph and I've managed to adjust so it's about right at 40ish but reports 70 mph when you're doing 60), odometer (5.1 digits), fuel gauge (non-linear, but consistent, the top half is a lot bigger than the bottom half, no arrow because it hadn't been invented yet). And then some lights: brake warnin…

Speedometer could be due to different size tires.

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

#135
post #39

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whats wrong with usb-a? I feels more sturdy and less likely to have connection issues then usb-c in my experience.

> whats wrong with usb-a? Which way up it should go.

The side with the holes. That's true for 95% of devices, with one of the few major exceptions being cheap chinese powerbanks

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

#136

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The hose won't always reach.

In my experience that's only true in TV adverts from my childhood. I've never had one unable to reach in real life.

Try in Europe

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

#137
post #77

Is the side to fill up evenly balanced between cars in average? I imagine there is value to make it close to 50/50 to simplify the logistics at the gas station. I was thinking car manufacturers perhaps had agreed so that some brands do it one way and some do it another

No the filler placement is sort of a cultural or historical thing. Usually European cars have filler on the passenger side while American and Japanese put them on the driver side. Afaik passenger side fillers are more safe if you run out of gas and need to fill up from a canister at the side of the road. While driver side fillers are more comfortable because you don't have to walk as far to get there.

I recall looking at a car to buy, and the salesman toted the gas cap on the right as the "safe side".

The logic was, if you run out of gas, you can refill on the side away from traffic.

Dumbest design reasoning. Plan the side, for an event most people never experience?! Or if they do, once... and maybe on a rural dirt road, not necessarily a freeway.

Probably wanted an excuse for moving it.

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

#139

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> whats wrong with usb-a? Which way up it should go.

It's very weird that USB-C solved the problem of "we can't tell which way to insert the plug" by mandating that both orientations should work, as opposed to just making the exterior of the plug as asymmetrical as the interior.

sometimes you're plugging in things at the back of something nearly flush against a wall and you can't really see, its quite useful for the connector to be reversible.

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

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post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No the filler placement is sort of a cultural or historical thing. Usually European cars have filler on the passenger side while American and Japanese put them on the driver side. Afaik passenger side fillers are more safe if you run out of gas and need to fill up from a canister at the side of the road. While driver side fillers are more comfortable because you don't have to walk as far to get there.

I recall looking at a car to buy, and the salesman toted the gas cap on the right as the "safe side". The logic was, if you run out of gas, you can refill on the side away from traffic. Dumbest design reasoning. Plan the side, for an event most people never experience?! Or if they do, once... and maybe on a rural dirt road, not necessarily a freeway. Probably wanted an excuse for moving it.

Do you also hate airplane regulations for their dumbest reasoning? You know, when they try to avoid one in a million situation saving mere 200 people?
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