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Google is 'gradually rolling out' option to change your gmail.com address

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Post by krainboltgreene »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #101
onesociety2022 wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not only is it strange, it’s obviously very sexist in practice. In majority of the cases, it’s always the woman who changes her last name. The husband gets to keep his. I still find it very strange and shocking that powerful women with successful careers in modern society still keep changing their names after getting married.

It is not sexist at all, let alone "obviously very sexist". Don't impute malicious motives to people like that, it's extremely rude.

Come on man, I think it's safe to say a tradition that favor's men over women is reasonably sexist, especially given the time the tradition established women were property.

I don't think Belgium's feelings will get hurt, besides wait until you learn about all the other things that Leopold II did.

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Post by grigri907 »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #103
9dev wrote: post #50

Oh, finally. I’m one of the first.last@gmail folks, which I assumed would never change when I was 13 years old (hah!). Fast forward a few years, I got married, and am stuck with my old name in the address.

I have a first.last email, but it's created quite the interesting situation. Turns out some dude in Australia has the same first+last name as me, and he's been using firstlast@gmail.com. As far as I can find from Google's documentation, the email with no dots should be the primary and the one with dots an alias, but I'm guessing because I registered mine ages ago (back in 2006) it takes precedence. I have no idea how…

If Im not mistaken, periods are ignored entirely. I regularly sign up for free trials with variations on first.last@gmail.com, firstlast@gmail.com, f.i.r.s.t.last, etc and they all come to my inbox.

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Post by NewJazz »

fragmede wrote: post #58
cedws wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Two things about fronting with your own domain: 1. You have to own that domain forever, until or at least until you're 100% confident that an email intended for you will never be sent to that domain ever again. Even then, there are security risks with giving up the domain. 2. You give up some privacy. You can use mailbox aliases but it doesn't really matter if all the mailboxes are tied to a domain registered to your…

Whois privacy is basically standard these days, no?

Yes but all of your aliases would be under the same domain so one could surmise that the same person uses the domain.

Re: Google is 'gradually rolling out' option to change your gmail.com address

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Post by mshroyer »

newswangerd wrote: post #94

As someone who has been stuck with an email address I created when I was 13, this would certainly be a welcome change!

Yeah, I imagine this will help a lot of people who created retrospectively-cringey email addresses in their youth, but kept them over the years because of inertia

> After changing, Google details that your original email address will still receive emails at the same inbox as your new one and work for sign-in, and that none of your account access will change.

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Post by kelnos »

charcircuit wrote: post #102
onesociety2022 wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not only is it strange, it’s obviously very sexist in practice. In majority of the cases, it’s always the woman who changes her last name. The husband gets to keep his. I still find it very strange and shocking that powerful women with successful careers in modern society still keep changing their names after getting married.

By such a definition any tradition related to gender would be sexist. The tradition is that the wife will change her name. This tradition is why it makes up the majority of cases.

No, any tradition that favors one gender over the other is sexist. Which is absolutely the case with the tradition of women taking their husband's family name when they get married.

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Post by kelnos »

jaynate wrote: post #51

My gmail address is first.last@gmail.com. From time to time (and for years) I get someone else’s at firstlast@gmail.com. I thought that a Gmail account that was first.last@gmail also allowed for email sent to firstlast@gmail (no period) to reach my inbox as well. I’ve received some sensitive/PII content over the years. I’ve wondered if this person has access to any of my information? Not necessarily related to this p…

No, I think what's happening is someone else is confused what their email address is. With Gmail, dots are not significant; any email address with dots is equivalent to the email address without any dots. (So you may have signed up as first.last@, but your email address under the hood is really firstlast. You can also send mail to your f.i.r.s.t.l.a.s.t@gmail.com, and it will be delivered to you.)

I expect that someone else with the same name as you occasionally (or all the time) forgets that their actual email address is flast@gmail.com or lastfirst@gmail.com or some other similar combo, and enters your email into signup forms. Or has friends who guessed their email address and got it wrong. Or something.

That other person doesn't have access to your information.

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Post by gcanyon »

anonymars wrote: post #74
wafflebot wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love this feature and wish something like it would come to Gmail. I can't rely on iCloud Mail anymore due to its overly aggressive silent spam filtering. Not great if you're trying to log into an account, and you can't receive the recovery emails for that account.

That's funny, as it's the same reason I moved off Gmail. Most egregious was a reply to my message ending up in spam, and the other party was someone also on Gmail

That's where the in:anywhere search is your friend. It searches all mail.

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Post by bruce511 »

colechristensen wrote: post #26
firefax wrote: post #17

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I got mine when it was invite only too, I had it a very long time. I use protonmail now -- I think the "free" model enables providers to shrug and go "hey you don't pay us" (if there is support at all -- I've never been able to speak to a human about this issue)

>I think the "free" model enables providers to shrug and go "hey you don't pay us" (if there is support at all -- I've never been able to speak to a human about this issue) I also have paid services a lot of money where customer service was nonexistent until I did a credit card chargeback or raised an issue with government regulators. I'm trying to figure out exactly what I want to push my state legislature to encode…

I'm in the camp that paying makes you a customer. Inversely using a free service makes you a user, not a customer.

And as you correctly note, there I'd no "user service" department.

You can of course push for any law you like, but I expect laws protecting "users" to be toothless. Basically the TOS will boil down to "we can do anything we like" - which I guess is more or less what they say now.

I find it helpful to think of users as distinct from customers because it let's you understand the provider company motivations.

For example, Google's customer's are advertisers. Hence they cull services not conducive to advertising.

Most startups see VCs as the customer. Their business model is to sell shares to VCs in round after round. Seen in that light their attitude to users is rational and users only exist as props to VC sales.

VCs (and founders) are chasing an exit, which is usually acquisition or aquihire. Your use of the service will thus rarely survive the exit.

These are not things to be outraged about. They are all completely rational and predictable outcomes. When you use a service, these are factors you should evaluate.

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Post by crazygringo »

mlmonkey wrote: post #122

I don't understand why they don't allow different domains. "gmail.com" is running low on email addresses; if they added more domains, they'd be able to really scale up their email offering.

Branding and marketing. It makes it crystal clear how popular it is.

And gmail.com isn't "running low" on addresses, I don't even know what that means. Whatever TLD you'd prefer, just append it to your username instead. Exact same amount of uniqueness.

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Post by phyzome »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #103
9dev wrote: post #50

Oh, finally. I’m one of the first.last@gmail folks, which I assumed would never change when I was 13 years old (hah!). Fast forward a few years, I got married, and am stuck with my old name in the address.

I have a first.last email, but it's created quite the interesting situation. Turns out some dude in Australia has the same first+last name as me, and he's been using firstlast@gmail.com. As far as I can find from Google's documentation, the email with no dots should be the primary and the one with dots an alias, but I'm guessing because I registered mine ages ago (back in 2006) it takes precedence. I have no idea how…

He has a different address than yours and has given out an incorrect version to some people (perhaps a misspelling of his name).

The dots are ignored.

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