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Re: Brown/MIT shooting suspect found dead, officials say

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Post by tsol »

asveikau wrote: post #130
10xDev wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But resentment over what? I haven't seen anything on this.

I don't know much about the suspect, but I do know that people have been saying for years that they go into deep debt to get degrees, even in things that are supposed to be respected or in demand, and then it turns out there is actually no job market or success path for that degree. I assume the implication is it had something to do with this kind of frustration. (Though the suspect went to school two decades ago and…

I haven't heard any clear motives yet. Some people are saying it's simply a case of someone who was a genius that ended up in a mediocre place in life, leading to to killing. Still that story is so common in America I don't see how it leads to killing innocent children at your alma mater? It makes no sense to me.

But as with many of these situations the truth might not make sense-- sometimes it's simply irrational thinking by someone mentally unwell. It reminds me a bit of the Reiner killings as well, considering there too there's no clear motive except maybe a hypothetical mental break. Truthfully, we might just never have a satisfying answer as to why this tragedy happened.

Re: Brown/MIT shooting suspect found dead, officials say

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Post by eBombzor »

elif wrote: post #102

Another shooting with random or unclear motives, which conveniently fits an anti-immigrant narrative, also conveniently tied up with a bow... Don't get too caught up in the specifics of the spectacle, and take a long view of really weird coincidence.

Is there really much of an anti-immigrant narrative here?

Re: Brown/MIT shooting suspect found dead, officials say

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Post by tsol »

astura wrote: post #62
shagie wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://news.sky.com/story/how-a-reddit-post-blew-brown-univ... > How a Reddit post blew Brown University shooting investigation wide open > Frustration had mounted that the murderer had managed to get away and that a clear image of his face hadn't emerged - until a Reddit post finally put police on his trail.

That says he's a reddit poster, not a Brown graduate who lived in the basement of the engineering building.

What I heard is he called the police tip line and left a message but didn't hear back for two days. After two days he left this tip and then was made a person of interest. This is just what I heard, not sure if there's more to this story.

Re: Brown/MIT shooting suspect found dead, officials say

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Post by Aurornis »

asveikau wrote: post #130
10xDev wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But resentment over what? I haven't seen anything on this.

I don't know much about the suspect, but I do know that people have been saying for years that they go into deep debt to get degrees, even in things that are supposed to be respected or in demand, and then it turns out there is actually no job market or success path for that degree. I assume the implication is it had something to do with this kind of frustration. (Though the suspect went to school two decades ago and…

I think there’s a lot of projecting going on in these comments. The truth is we don’t know the motivation. Guessing at student debt seems unlikely given that he didn’t finish the degree, left the country, and made vague posts about deception on physics message boards around the time.

Re: Brown/MIT shooting suspect found dead, officials say

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Post by y-curious »

mhb wrote: post #97
eduardogarza wrote: post #88

Obviously a lot of footage in investigations does not reach the public, during active ones or even after. But if you've followed these stories it seems liket between the Brown shooting and the Kirk/Utah shooting, there is a potential concern with universities not having security footage in certain areas of their campus? Has anyone else inquired more into this?

I'm sure Flock's sales team has made inquiries.

That’s funny, picturing their sales team smirking and rubbing their hands mischievously at every publicized manhunt

Re: Brown/MIT shooting suspect found dead, officials say

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Post by astura »

tsol wrote: post #133
astura wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That says he's a reddit poster, not a Brown graduate who lived in the basement of the engineering building.

What I heard is he called the police tip line and left a message but didn't hear back for two days. After two days he left this tip and then was made a person of interest. This is just what I heard, not sure if there's more to this story.

And...?? How does "he was a Brown graduate who lived in the basement of the engineering building" follow? Wtf?

Re: Brown/MIT shooting suspect found dead, officials say

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Post by kittikitti »

lisbbb wrote: post #32

The thing that bothers me about the whole story, apart from the deaths of course, is that we live in a surveillance state. While I want major crimes to be resolved and there to be deterrents to future ones, I just don't know about turning the whole US into East Germany. It's not going to work out well for any of us. As you can see, it didn't help solve the crimes, either. It was witnesses who did all the heavy liftin…

This is a good point and worth noting because we sacrifice so much for the supposed benefits.

Re: Brown/MIT shooting suspect found dead, officials say

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Post by zerocrates »

fwip wrote: post #45
Aliabid94 wrote: post #14

Worth noting that a partner at Sequoia (Shaun Maguire) publicly accused the wrong guy of being the shooter. https://www.fastcompany.com/91463942/sequoia-shaun-maguire-b...

> Maguire subsequently partially apologized for those comments in a video. “This tweet did not land the way I thought it would,” What an asshole. He could have gotten the kid killed, not to mention the damage to his social reputation. And he can't even manage a "sorry if you were offended" non-apology.

The "did not land" video they're talking about, that was his response to people being mad at him for calling Mamdani an Islamist (and being "from a culture that lies about everything"). Also, "partially" is doing a lot of work there: he starts that video saying "cancel culture is alive and well" and doesn't in fact back off at all from his claim: the "did not land" part is even just Maguire lamenting that he accidentally helped Mamdani by targeting him.

Anyway, when he went after the Brown student saying he was "very likely" the shooter (also bringing in Mamdani again), he did less: he simply deleted the video.

Re: Brown/MIT shooting suspect found dead, officials say

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Post by asveikau »

Aurornis wrote: post #134
asveikau wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know much about the suspect, but I do know that people have been saying for years that they go into deep debt to get degrees, even in things that are supposed to be respected or in demand, and then it turns out there is actually no job market or success path for that degree. I assume the implication is it had something to do with this kind of frustration. (Though the suspect went to school two decades ago and…

I think there’s a lot of projecting going on in these comments. The truth is we don’t know the motivation. Guessing at student debt seems unlikely given that he didn’t finish the degree, left the country, and made vague posts about deception on physics message boards around the time.

You misread me. I said "with this kind of frustration", meaning a broad category of frustration with the system of academia and education. That is not that 100% of the problem is student debt. It's that aspiring academics and scientists can have a hard time supporting themselves.

Re: Brown/MIT shooting suspect found dead, officials say

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Post by fwip »

zerocrates wrote: post #138
fwip wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Maguire subsequently partially apologized for those comments in a video. “This tweet did not land the way I thought it would,” What an asshole. He could have gotten the kid killed, not to mention the damage to his social reputation. And he can't even manage a "sorry if you were offended" non-apology.

The "did not land" video they're talking about, that was his response to people being mad at him for calling Mamdani an Islamist (and being "from a culture that lies about everything"). Also, "partially" is doing a lot of work there: he starts that video saying "cancel culture is alive and well" and doesn't in fact back off at all from his claim: the "did not land" part is even just Maguire lamenting that he accident…

Oh - thank you very much for the correction, I must have been reading the article too quickly!
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