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Re: Mistral OCR 3

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Post by voxic11 »

_menelaus wrote: post #114
petcat wrote: post #4

It seems like Mistral is just chasing around sort of "the fringes" of what could be useful AI features. Are they just getting out-classed by OAI, Google, Anthropic? It seems like EU in general should be heavily invested in Mistral's development, but it doesn't seem like they are.

Mistral is pursuing pursuing B2B use cases. Thats because they're releasing open models and the big thing about B2B is they HATE sending their data off-prem. OCR'ing and organizing old docs is a huge feature in B2B. Mistral's strategy seems smart to me.

Why did they make this model only available though their API then?

Re: Mistral OCR 3

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Post by _menelaus »

voxic11 wrote: post #131
_menelaus wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mistral is pursuing pursuing B2B use cases. Thats because they're releasing open models and the big thing about B2B is they HATE sending their data off-prem. OCR'ing and organizing old docs is a huge feature in B2B. Mistral's strategy seems smart to me.

Why did they make this model only available though their API then?

That is a good question, I don't know.

Re: Mistral OCR 3

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Post by potsandpans »

vintermann wrote: post #101

I appreciate having an OCR interface rather than having to chat with a bot, but unfortunately chatting with Gemini 3 gives far better results than this. I gave it the document Gemini 3 got a surprisingly good result on: https://urn.digitalarkivet.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-rk10101508282... and the output wasn't even recognizably Danish. Just out of pity I gave it a birthday card from my sister written in very readable moder…

Something I noticed about gemini: I've been experimenting with transcribing old handwritten gaelic archives. Qwen 235b a22b instruct appears to give a much more faithful reproduction compared to gemini, for the simple fact that gemini keeps hallucinating an old gaelic faerie tale

Re: Mistral OCR 3

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Post by wqaatwt »

menaerus wrote: post #129
bee_rider wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If somebody is in the EU already that calculation completely flips. We have a strong software startup industry in the US, would it really be that surprising if there was more unallocated talent in the EU, at this point?

> If somebody is in the EU already that calculation completely flips. Would you find it compelling to move your whole life for ~100k EUR when you can make as much or more at your home city, with a job that is almost certainly more stable? And I meant the Europeans. People in EU don't have a culture of moving between cities or countries unless they really have a strong reason to, e.g. can't find a job at home. > would…

> People in EU don't have a culture of moving between cities or countries

Southern and Eastern Europeans certainly do.

Re: Mistral OCR 3

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Post by menaerus »

wqaatwt wrote: post #134
menaerus wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If somebody is in the EU already that calculation completely flips. Would you find it compelling to move your whole life for ~100k EUR when you can make as much or more at your home city, with a job that is almost certainly more stable? And I meant the Europeans. People in EU don't have a culture of moving between cities or countries unless they really have a strong reason to, e.g. can't find a job at home. > would…

> People in EU don't have a culture of moving between cities or countries Southern and Eastern Europeans certainly do.

I said unless they have a strong reason to. Do they?

Re: Mistral OCR 3

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Post by vintermann »

amelius wrote: post #56
vasco wrote: post #20

Gave it a birth registry from a Portuguese locality from 1755 which my dad and I often decipher to figure out geneology and it did a terrible job. Regular Gemini Thinking can actually get 70-80% of the documents correct except lots of mistakes on given names. Chatgpt maybe understands like 50-60%. This Mistral model butchered the whole text, literally not a word was usable. To the point I think I'm doing something wr…

Forgivable, as that's a quite atypical document, I'd say.

There are thousands of thousands of documents like this, and many which are much harder to read. It's a very typical document for genealogy.

Re: Mistral OCR 3

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Post by wqaatwt »

menaerus wrote: post #135
wqaatwt wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> People in EU don't have a culture of moving between cities or countries Southern and Eastern Europeans certainly do.

I said unless they have a strong reason to. Do they?

Do people in other places constantly move to other states/countries on a whim without any strong reasons?
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