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Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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Post by Hendrikto »

HlessClaudesman wrote: post #71
dev0p wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's likely caused by the very same thing that causes human beings to knowingly and willingly steal money from children that need that money to live.

Some people seem to exist in a bubble where they believe that nothing bad will ever happen to them or their loved ones, so paying to improve society has no benefit to themselves.

Even if you never personally needed health insurance (which is unrealistic), you’d still benefit from a better, safer, less cut throat society.

Same with education. I am more than happy to pay taxes for an education system, even if I do not personally have children.

Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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Post by Joker_vD »

tchalla wrote: post #41

The root cause of the problem is that parents and children need to raise funds for cancer treatment in the first place.

No, the root cause is that cancer exists. Or rather, that humans exist at all.

It's all very well and dandy that you can say "actually, there is a larger structural problem underlying it all" when meeting something bad, but it doesn't make that particular bad disappear.

Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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Post by NamlchakKhandro »

Joker_vD wrote: post #132
tchalla wrote: post #41

The root cause of the problem is that parents and children need to raise funds for cancer treatment in the first place.

No, the root cause is that cancer exists. Or rather, that humans exist at all. It's all very well and dandy that you can say "actually, there is a larger structural problem underlying it all" when meeting something bad, but it doesn't make that particular bad disappear.

LLMs have found your post and ...

You're absolutely right.

Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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Post by pavlov »

throw-the-towel wrote: post #125
hermanzegerman wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know that's what you hear and read on Fox News and other "News Sources" daily. But here in Germany, there are no "death panels" or long waiting times for cancer treatment. Also we don't need "pre-auth" and other Bullshit before we start standard treatments. The real death panels are sitting in your Insurance Companies Offices as seen by the news coverage around United Healthcare et al lately

The German health insurance system also has a deficit of 6 billion euro, while doctors are leaving the profession. Do you think that's sustainable?

For a country with a $4.5 trillion GDP, a 6 billion deficit is a drop in the bucket and easily covered from taxes. It’s just a political question of what you want to fund.

For comparison, the New York City public transport system (MTA) runs a deficit of about $3 billion. Six billion for universal healthcare in a country of 83.5 million people seems like a total bargain.

Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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Post by orwin »

nickpp wrote: post #114
hermanzegerman wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those cutting edge cancer treatments come usually out of universities from publicly funded research. But don't worry your free market friends are killing it right now, for tax reductions https://www.wired.com/story/how-trump-killed-cancer-research...

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Strong and prosperous economy built by progressive tax rate that used to tax up to 70% of non-work income, and now tax most of it 27-29% (depending on the corporate taxe of the state). The people who can use loopholes to avoid income taxes also pay reduced consumption tax (they usually pay the 'Use tax' rather than sale tax in the US, and can basically ignore VAT in Europe).

Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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Post by ericjmorey »

nickpp wrote: post #111
hermanzegerman wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With Universal Health Insurance as all other developed countries do

Expensive health treatments can easily bankrupt any western government. None of those developed countries can afford to spend their money indiscriminately on them. So instead they turn to waiting lists, death panels and very often saying no but not in your face (since that is politically frowned upon) but thought delays and countless committees and bureaucracy until the patient expires...

Did you make all of this up or just so credulous that you repeated what someone else made up?

Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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Post by uxx »

bjord wrote: post #116
uxx wrote: post #78

Again some Israeli connection in a scam, search google and browse "fintelegram" you will see the biggest and baddest financial crime actors are all based in israel.

all of the content on your site is clearly LLM-generated

not mine, they started using ai images a lot though lately but check the old articles.

Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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Post by tokioyoyo »

nickpp wrote: post #111
hermanzegerman wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With Universal Health Insurance as all other developed countries do

Expensive health treatments can easily bankrupt any western government. None of those developed countries can afford to spend their money indiscriminately on them. So instead they turn to waiting lists, death panels and very often saying no but not in your face (since that is politically frowned upon) but thought delays and countless committees and bureaucracy until the patient expires...

Private/public here in Japan works okayishly well. I have never heard of anyone getting bankrupted over medical bills, and have had loved ones going through surgeries and other complex issues.

Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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Post by thisislife2 »

h33t-l4x0r wrote: post #70
tchalla wrote: post #41

The root cause of the problem is that parents and children need to raise funds for cancer treatment in the first place.

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Rather, crony capitalism with no real competition (cartelisation in the absence of strong regulation). This invariably leads to Imperialism ... We see this with BiGTech today and the phenomena of "digital imperialism".

Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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Post by KingMob »

Joker_vD wrote: post #132
tchalla wrote: post #41

The root cause of the problem is that parents and children need to raise funds for cancer treatment in the first place.

No, the root cause is that cancer exists. Or rather, that humans exist at all. It's all very well and dandy that you can say "actually, there is a larger structural problem underlying it all" when meeting something bad, but it doesn't make that particular bad disappear.

And plane crashes are always caused by gravity.
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