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2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web

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Re: 2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web

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Post by squigz »

dddw wrote: post #126

I got a last.FM story. I used last.fm for years, then wanted tot use it again after a hiatus. But was locked out of my account, and the email I used of that service didn't exist anymore. I contacted last.fm saying what the old email was, and told them the profile picture was from a guitarist from an obscure islandic band, who's blonde hair I photo shopped into brown, so he looked more like me. They gave we a reset li…

I would guess that after so long, and without the feature creep so many platforms suffer from, last.fm has a very simple and affordable infrastructure. It's also owned by Paramount, so likely a small drop in the bucket for them. They also have ads and subs, so.

Re: 2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web

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Post by squigz »

erikig wrote: post #78
acephal wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> My favorite thing about Napster and LimeWire was when you could find a song, and then BROWSE the hard drive of the person hosting that song. Soulseek lets you do this and is still going

Soulseek is still going? I discovered so many artists, international variations of albums, live sessions and bootlegs from that app, it changed my relationship with music. I have to go back and check it out.

Soulseek is definitely still going, and absolutely still captures that feeling GP is talking about :)

Beyond that, and practically speaking, I find it the easiest way to find large, nicely organized discographies. And some not so nicely organized.

Re: 2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web

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Post by crtasm »

mariusor wrote: post #121
crtasm wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's even a FOSS client now https://github.com/nicotine-plus/nicotine-plus

Nicotine+ has existed for at least 15 years. I'm pretty sure it was open source all this time.

while Soulseek has existed for 24 years, I mention it in case GP's use didn't overlap.

Re: 2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web

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Post by twistslider »

Semaphor wrote: post #123
twistslider wrote: post #17

Last.fm is still used quite a bit, mainly as a listening history tracker rather than a radio or recommendation engine. Spotify is still the only big streaming service with native platform-level scrobbling. For everything else it's a lot more DIY, usually with third party tools at the device level. A big reason it’s still relevant is the ecosystem around it. The API hasn't really changed in 15 years, which makes it ea…

Could you use your fame to get last.fm to extend their API to allow listening number checks so it's not only people who registered with your bot? ;) Also thanks for your work, while I dislike the spammyness of it, that's on the server owners (main server I'm on limits it to one bot channel)

Last.fm isn't really expanding their API unfortunately. You can however see Last.fm stats in the main artist/album/track commands.

As for spammyness, I'm aware this is an issue. For non-bot channels I recommend using .togglecommand and enabling just a few specific commands, and setting a small embed mode so .fm commands don't take up too much space in chat.

Re: 2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web

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Post by eleventen »

sthuck wrote: post #35

The best ”algorithm” for discovering new music was digging through profiles on last.fm back when the social functions of the site were still active. Sure, it was a lot of manual work, but the results were amazing. It wasn't completely blind, I found that people I had high similarity with, it was more likely I'll like what they like, even across different genres. Sometimes people were nice and took the effort to recom…

You can still do exactly this on bandcamp!

Re: 2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web

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Post by [deleted] »

Daz912 wrote: post #112
Triphibian wrote: post #66

I find it funny and sad that people get so excited about those Wrapped year-end things on Spotify when these companies are basically withholding all this data all year long and then pretend like it's a special treat when they doll out a peek at it once a year. It feels to me like "dark mode" (which is a merely single color of customization for an app). We expect so little from our software and services that even thes…

>I find it funny and sad that people get so excited about those Wrapped year-end things on Spotify when these companies are basically withholding all this data all year long and then pretend like it's a special treat when they doll out a peek at it once a year. Skill issue. you can export your listening history whenever you like.

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Re: 2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web

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Post by skerit »

binaryturtle wrote: post #18

I stopped scrobbling many years ago when they messed together my top artist at the time (the lovely "alan", spelled with all small letters) with other entirely unrelated artists by the same name (but with different letter case, e.g. some "Alan" this, and some "Alan" that.) It didn't represent at all what I was actually listening to, so what was the point?

It has always been like this. It's a super simple system. All artists are only identified by their name. So there are a ton of artist pages out there that actually have to represent multiple artists with the same name. It's kinda silly, but oh well.

Re: 2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web

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Post by sunaookami »

kaizenb wrote: post #32
quirino wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tried it out now, pretty nice. Note that apps built from the SDK don't have access to the full history, only up to some cutoff. I tried a couple over the years and wrongly concluded Spotify deleted your history after some time. The data download does contain everything, which was a very pleasant surprise. I didn't think I'd ever see the data from the couple years gap in my last.fm.

Just requested my data. They have noted "Preparation time 30 days" :/ What takes so long?

It's the maximum time allowed by GDPR but it usually is way faster, depending on how much data you have.

Re: 2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web

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Post by gonlad_x »

sthuck wrote: post #35

The best ”algorithm” for discovering new music was digging through profiles on last.fm back when the social functions of the site were still active. Sure, it was a lot of manual work, but the results were amazing. It wasn't completely blind, I found that people I had high similarity with, it was more likely I'll like what they like, even across different genres. Sometimes people were nice and took the effort to recom…

Aren't these social features still active?
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