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LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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Well I’m not sure if you can regulate having good design and user experience. Certainly the ability to roll back updates and enforcing privacy though.

It is simple. Let user remove any unwanted software and don't install anything new (as in new apps), without user consent.

Yeah, it seems simple

Then companies start quibbling over what software is required for the system to function, so much that the courts give up trying to fight them

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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Same. Only thing that ever managed to break me of my reddit habit. No 3rd party apps? Reddit may as well no longer exist as far as I'm concerned.

Welcome back to reddit! There is a third party app called Red Reader, it's free. https://www.reddit.com/r/RedReader/

Nah. I’m not going to kick that habit twice.

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

#133

Until somebody releases a dumb TV, you just can't connect your tv to the Internet.

Our LCD TV is almost 2 decades old. If we upgrade, I can guarantee we won't be connecting it to the Internet. Also none of our smart appliances are connected to the Internet.

They don’t need your internet for a connection

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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As a proud member of the LGTV community (yes I'm making 2 of those kinds of jokes back to back, fight me), and an occasional reddit user, I'm both horrified by the notion of getting this update and thrilled people are still using old.reddit.com. The new layout, which isn't even new anymore, still falls very short for it I'm looking something up and it's buried in a comment thread where ctrl-f can't find it.

> thrilled people are still using old.reddit.com I noticed a day or two ago they quietly turned on the 'show new reddit as default' preference option, it was still possible to change default back but they won't stop pushing it.

This happens every few months.

You should just use a browser extension to do it since those don’t rely on an auth state anyway.

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

#135

If supported, rooting is easy. https://cani.rootmy.tv/

Does this link now work for LG TVs again? I rooted mine about four years go, so no annoying AI firmware updates, but I remember there was an update to the LG webOS that prevented the exploit that allowed rootmy.tv to work.

If rootmy.tv is working again for modern LG TVs, I'll run out and buy another one.

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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The problem is that every business seems to be run by fuckheads who would respond to this by changing their business model to "Televisions as a Service" Every TV would become a rental instead of a product you can buy Maybe I'm cynical, but I don't see any way to be optimistic anymore. Every company now seems to behave like landlords instead of producers

Yes, but if it is "TVs as a service" then it completely changes the game. We can force them to replace the TV when it dies. Or make them take the TV back when we stop the service. Repairability would be their problem, not ours. This could arguably be a win for the environment. Of course, many people would still want to own their products, so that would be a market opportunity then.

Only on this fucking website would I say something as full of shit as "TV as a service" and find some asshole thinking it sounds like a great idea

I give up. Go fuck yourselves Hacker News I'm done with this anti-human hellhole

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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It is simple. Let user remove any unwanted software and don't install anything new (as in new apps), without user consent.

Yeah, it seems simple Then companies start quibbling over what software is required for the system to function, so much that the courts give up trying to fight them

Simple: Anything required for the hardware to function must be open source and user replaceable (no signed firmware, or at least a way to turn off signatures or load your own keys).

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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Same. Only thing that ever managed to break me of my reddit habit. No 3rd party apps? Reddit may as well no longer exist as far as I'm concerned.

Welcome back to reddit! There is a third party app called Red Reader, it's free. https://www.reddit.com/r/RedReader/

Lol, not only do I not want to jump back into that pit after having already climbed out, the site is entirely infested with AI bots now. So thanks but no thanks. It's a pretty worthless site now.

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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Our LCD TV is almost 2 decades old. If we upgrade, I can guarantee we won't be connecting it to the Internet. Also none of our smart appliances are connected to the Internet.

They don’t need your internet for a connection

I'd like to hear more how that could work. If I get a new TV and never configure it for access from Day 1, how would it connect to the Internet or some unknown service with I guess Internet access as a proxy? On its own?

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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Until somebody releases a dumb TV, you just can't connect your tv to the Internet.

Our LCD TV is almost 2 decades old. If we upgrade, I can guarantee we won't be connecting it to the Internet. Also none of our smart appliances are connected to the Internet.

You won’t get a choice; they will come with a 5G connection that doesn’t ask you, doesn’t notify you, doesn’t cost you, and has no user-visible toggle. Like cars do these days. And a mesh-networking fallback so if you’re in a city and your neighbour also has one of the similar brand it will connect through their internet instead.
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