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YouTube's CEO limits his kids' social media use – other tech bosses do the same

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Post by mabedan »

davely wrote: post #101
orochimaaru wrote: post #65

Screen time features exist on most devices. Parents - please set them up. It doesn’t take a lot of effort. I limit my kids for 1/2 hr of screen time per day. I exclude apps like iMessage, phone and maps. Yeah - they do ask for more time here and there. But it’s pretty well controlled and they adjust to it

Apple’s screen time parental settings are some of the most obtuse and frustrating features I’ve had to navigate on their devices (so much, that I honestly wonder if the people behind it even have kids). I’m glad they exist but they could be so much better.

Can you be more specific? I’m curious.

My son is too young to use a phone but I plan to use screentime when he’s ready for a phone.

I use screen time for myself, with a 1minute limit for weekdays and 1 hour limit for weekends, for all social media, news and media consumption apps, and my wife has the password (because I have zero self control)

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Post by websiteapi »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #73
fullshark wrote: post #62

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My kid found work arounds for that. For example she reset the ipad's clock to give herself more time. It really is like a drug to these children and they will lash out at you if you take it away.

If you are HN you know how to RTFM, I guess. The Fix: Lock it Down: Go to Settings > Screen Time. Tap Turn On Screen Time (if not already on) and set it up for your child. Tap Use Screen Time Passcode and create a passcode that the child doesn't know. Go to Content & Privacy Restrictions (under Screen Time) and turn it on. Tap Allowed Apps (to disable camera/other apps if needed) and Change Restrictions. Under Conten…

The problem with this is you’re creating a dichotomy. Some apps have good content that could be consumed indefinitely, which is beyond the scope of these controls.

Simplest example to point this out is if the parental controls only had things to limit phone usage generally without per app controls.

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Post by rightbyte »

concinds wrote: post #41
rightbyte wrote: post #37

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> We should be clearer on what it means. In this occurrence I mean "distract the kids with something such that they don't hurt them self, fight or destroy stuff so the parent can do X" such as doing the disches or resting. Not like, great at raising the kids in some moral sense. In which YT etc is terrible. I cheat on fancy restaurants and might hand the kids some screen (not YT) to give us a chance to finnish the me…

Harm is a spectrum, but being able to sit still, and not harm yourself and destroy things, is a skill kids need to learn and using an iPad for that can stunt their growth.

Sure I agree. I am trying to understand parents that capitulate. I think it mainly is a stamina and mental energy issue. Like those parents that give kids too much kandy too handle outbursts short term or something.

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Post by bdangubic »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #127
irl_zebra wrote: post #109

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It's a responsibility, probably (definitely, I think, but minimally probably) the most important job and responsibility one can have. If you're on HN, then you likely recognize the brain rotting effect of social media without moderation, and if that's the case, your responsibility is to parent to the minimum amount that you moderate your kids' usage.

Yep. And people parent harder by banning social media entirely. Problem solved!

this is exactly what hard parenting is all about. I do “as long as you under my roof…” bit (6 more years to go…) :)

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

bdangubic wrote: post #134
2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #127

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Yep. And people parent harder by banning social media entirely. Problem solved!

this is exactly what hard parenting is all about. I do “as long as you under my roof…” bit (6 more years to go…) :)

I think the problem is that parents don't know that it's bad so they don't limit but this CEO apparently knows! Many parents are addicts themselves

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Post by SoftTalker »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #126
SoftTalker wrote: post #116

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Find some other activities. Tee-ball, soccer, swimming, cub scouts, anything that involves interacting with other kids without technology.

My son has a friend that went the sports route. He is always trying to sneak Roblox screen time when he is over on a play date and when my kid goes over to his house, his parents are very strict about no screen time and they have a great time. It’s still up to the parent to enforce limitations even if you can distract them with other things.

Agreed, but at least they have those hours outside doing something physical.

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Post by Larrikin »

mabedan wrote: post #131
davely wrote: post #101

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Apple’s screen time parental settings are some of the most obtuse and frustrating features I’ve had to navigate on their devices (so much, that I honestly wonder if the people behind it even have kids). I’m glad they exist but they could be so much better.

Can you be more specific? I’m curious. My son is too young to use a phone but I plan to use screentime when he’s ready for a phone. I use screen time for myself, with a 1minute limit for weekdays and 1 hour limit for weekends, for all social media, news and media consumption apps, and my wife has the password (because I have zero self control)

Younger kids are happy to hit the one more minute button for hours to continue doing what they are doing in one minute increments. Older kids are happy to download the shadiest weirdest browsers you haven't explicitly blocked and keep them uninstalled by running them directly from the dmg without dragging them over to the applications folder.

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Post by markus_zhang »

SoftTalker wrote: post #116
markus_zhang wrote: post #87

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What do you plan to do? Mine is in preschool but it's just a few years away...I feel pretty desperate.

Find some other activities. Tee-ball, soccer, swimming, cub scouts, anything that involves interacting with other kids without technology.

Yeah we are doing that. And I added camping and hiking into the game. The problem is, we need to find other parents that share the same mind, but I’m too shy to reach out:/

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Post by sokoloff »

gregates wrote: post #125
quickthrowman wrote: post #121

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You didn’t pick particularly good examples. YouTube Kids [0] is an actual product owned and marketed by Google. Pfizer and Anheiser-Busch don’t market their products to kids. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube_Kids

And the reason is that those products are (rightly) regulated. Would there be beer marketed to kids if it were legal? Would it be fine if it were the parents' sole responsibility to ensure their kids weren't drinking beer, including at school, at friends' homes where the parents may have different rules, etc., absent a general social consensus that kids shouldn't have beer? This is anecdotal evidence for the emerging…

I think social media has clear positive and negative aspects. That makes it closer to food than cigarettes in my mind.

We can all immediately conjure up images where food or social media has brought something positive into our lives.

News.yc is something I visit almost every day and it has added value to my life, including introducing me to a few people I’ve met in real life and to interesting tech.

Equally, we can all pretty readily conjure up images where excess food or social media has harmed people.

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