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Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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Disney is the same company as it was 20 years ago. In fact, it's the same company as it was 100 years ago. They only care about profit. They do just enough brand management to preserve the profit motive.

Amen. Blaming Disney for bad content is like blaming politicians. Who asked for the content? Who elected the politicians? ** [Jiminy] crickets**

Garbage in, garbage out, as someone wise once said

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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This. Don't believe for a second that Sora will allow you to make racist content with Disney characters. That said, there are a lot of other models out there that care about neither licensing nor alignment. So those will allow you to make racist content. Then you can do whatever you like with that generated content. A lot of IP owners will learn that there is more than one way to skin a cat. It's easier than people t…

Given the creativity of the jailbreaking community I will be very impressed if OpenAI manage to reliably prevent Sora from creating disagreeable content with Disney characters.

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Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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> but they're absolutely going to be commoditized I've been thinking the same since GPT3 too, and since ChatGPT, and since Claude and... But here I am, still paying for ChatGPT Pro because it's literally has the best model you can get access to for a fixed price each month, and none of the others so far come close. I still use Anthropic's and Google's models to compare/validate against, because I assumed at one point…

I think OpenAI having the best model still isn't enough. The AI marketplace isn't really in a race to the top, it's in a race to the mass market middle. If Gemini is good enough for the majority of people to complete the majority of tasks they want to then market effects and bundling can get an already dominant company like Google to take over the market. And that's without considering the integration possibilities,…

> good enough for the majority of people to complete the majority of tasks

It will never be this. There is always the expectation of being able to do more things.

"Log into my work email and deal with all of them whilst I have a bath".

"Start a company for me to earn some extra weekend cash by washing peoples driveways. Find and hire some people to do the actual washing"

"Find a nice house for me by a lake, negotiate a good price and buy it (get a mortgage if necessary) then book all the removals services and find me a new job nearby".

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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post #97
post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This. Don't believe for a second that Sora will allow you to make racist content with Disney characters. That said, there are a lot of other models out there that care about neither licensing nor alignment. So those will allow you to make racist content. Then you can do whatever you like with that generated content. A lot of IP owners will learn that there is more than one way to skin a cat. It's easier than people t…

Given the creativity of the jailbreaking community I will be very impressed if OpenAI manage to reliably prevent Sora from creating disagreeable content with Disney characters.

If they’re jail breaking it, they should already be able to get it to create Disney characters without this deal.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

#135

This will not end well for Disney, there were certain historical characters removed from Sora 2 because people kept making racist videos that are hard to censor, and it became increasingly unhinged. This feels like another circular investment where Disney is hoping to make money back I'm sure. On the other hand, assuming they do the freemium stuff, I look forward to making a few videos of my daughters favorite Disney…

>This feels like another circular investment where Disney is hoping to make money back I'm sure.

How is that circular?

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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$1B sounds huge, I don't understand what Disney has to gain. Is this only to have some control over the videos generated on Sora with their IP?

From https://openai.com/index/disney-sora-agreement/

It's an equity investment, and yes they're agreeing to a committment to protecting the rights of the creators.

> Disney and OpenAI affirm a shared commitment to responsible use of AI that protects the safety of users and the rights of creators. >Alongside the licensing agreement, Disney will become a major customer of OpenAI, using its APIs to build new products, tools, and experiences, including for Disney+, and deploying ChatGPT for its employees. >As part of the agreement, Disney will make a $1 billion equity investment in OpenAI, and receive warrants to purchase additional equity.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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Disney is not the same company it was 20 years ago. 2025 Disney encourages children to gamble and gives Pat McAfee significant visibility.

Disney is the same company as it was 20 years ago. In fact, it's the same company as it was 100 years ago. They only care about profit. They do just enough brand management to preserve the profit motive.

Companies can have additional motives to profit, and they’re more likely to when control is concentrated just because individual people have multiple desires.

This was certainly the case with early Disney because Walt Disney was a megalomaniac utopian. I don’t think the original Epcot plans ever had a reasonable chance of being profitable, but Walt pushed them because he believed he was the saviour of urbanism in America.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

#139

This will not end well for Disney, there were certain historical characters removed from Sora 2 because people kept making racist videos that are hard to censor, and it became increasingly unhinged. This feels like another circular investment where Disney is hoping to make money back I'm sure. On the other hand, assuming they do the freemium stuff, I look forward to making a few videos of my daughters favorite Disney…

Disney is not the same company it was 20 years ago. 2025 Disney encourages children to gamble and gives Pat McAfee significant visibility.

What has Pat Mcafee got to do with anything, is he somehow a controversial figure now?

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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This will not end well for Disney, there were certain historical characters removed from Sora 2 because people kept making racist videos that are hard to censor, and it became increasingly unhinged. This feels like another circular investment where Disney is hoping to make money back I'm sure. On the other hand, assuming they do the freemium stuff, I look forward to making a few videos of my daughters favorite Disney…

I guess it will depend on how good their security is, because I'm assuming Disney is entering this deal with hard guidelines on what will be allowed.

AI with hard guidelines? I don't think that will work.
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