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Re: UniFi 5G

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Post by brandensilva »

inopinatus wrote: post #104
kkapelon wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unifi is the Apple of networking gear. When something new is released the HN crowd is excited even when the same functionality existed already with another company.

More like the Sonos of networking gear, in that they were once kinda cool but squandered it with questionable product decisions.

They have always been stuck between prosumer, pro business, and enterprise.

They have tried to go subscription based licensing but that can be conflicting for companies who just want decent reliable network gear in all the above market segments.

I fit in the prosumer category and have about $10,000 in gear and while it's great for my needs I don't see myself ever spending money for network gear subscriptions.

Re: UniFi 5G

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Post by [deleted] »

sschueller wrote: post #34
dagmx wrote: post #4

The fallback support for UniFi setups will be awesome. I’m honestly tempted to get it for my house. My ISP downtime is pretty low but it does happen every once in a while, at the most inopportune times, which impedes working from home. Having a wireless backup would hopefully cover those downtimes

I have a wireless backup[1] using Vyos[2] and a 5G router provided for free by the 5G service provider for those rare moments when both fiber links are dead. At the same time I would never recommend anyone get 5G internet as their primary service if you have other options and especially not from one of these cheap providers. [1] https://sschueller.github.io/posts/wiring-a-home-with-fiber/ [2] https://sschueller.githu…

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Re: UniFi 5G

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Post by Normal_gaussian »

jsheard wrote: post #119
kkapelon wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unifi is the Apple of networking gear. When something new is released the HN crowd is excited even when the same functionality existed already with another company.

They have the form-over-function aspect too, in that they decided to keep the external design language consistent across the board no matter what. Which meant they couldn't improve the passive heat dissipation enough to keep up with newer network standards, and had to resort to putting fans in their WiFi APs to keep them from overheating.

And they make the whole claim of 'minimalism means easy to use for power users', which really means 'we'll keep messing with how the meshing in your house works so that you're unable to pin preferred routes between nodes - because without seeing your house we know better'.

Re: UniFi 5G

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Post by mjlee »

theshrike79 wrote: post #105
sschueller wrote: post #31

I am confused, this is just a 5G router right? Like the 5 year old Huawei CPE Pro 2 but with wifi7, poe and eSim? [1] https://consumer.huawei.com/en/routers/5g-cpe-pro-2/

I have this exact Huawei as my failover internet connection, works perfectly except doesn't do PoE so I need to have a stupid wall-wart for it.

You can buy PoE splitters that will take ethernet in and give you ethernet + some power supply out. Looks like you need 12V/2A and a cursory search throws up a few options.

Re: UniFi 5G

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Post by tow21 »

kkapelon wrote: post #45
tow21 wrote: post #35

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How does the Teltonika work out for you - I nearly bought it earlier this year but it doesn't have support for external antennae. I'm just on the edge of 5G coverage and I'm not sure I want to splash out on something which I can't tune for decent reception. Seems an odd omission for a ruggedised outside modem - the Unifi also seems to not support external antennae. (I'd also prefer a unifi version just so it fits in…

OTD500 is antenna + router in a single box. There is nothing else needed. I just put it outdoors with a POE cable. Originally, I used it as a backup, but now I have an unlimited SIM, so I use it as a second internet connection. If you mean the standard routers (like the Rutx50), Teltonika itself sells external enclosures with antennas. https://www.teltonika-networks.com/products/accessories/ante...

Yeah, I know - but an antenna embedded within a small box is going to be much less effective than a big old directional Yagi antenna like https://www.satshop.fi/en/4g/4g-5g/4g-antennas.html

Seems weird to cripple the product by not allowing me to (optionally) disable the internal antenna and instead use and tune an external antenna. And I suspect that is likely to make a difference when you are on the edge of coverage, but you know exactly where the relevant cell tower is, a few km away.

Re: UniFi 5G

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Post by beAbU »

kkapelon wrote: post #61
sschueller wrote: post #31

I am confused, this is just a 5G router right? Like the 5 year old Huawei CPE Pro 2 but with wifi7, poe and eSim? [1] https://consumer.huawei.com/en/routers/5g-cpe-pro-2/

Unifi is the Apple of networking gear. When something new is released the HN crowd is excited even when the same functionality existed already with another company.

To be fair, they have a nice ecosystem for networking nerds. I got a Dream Router last week for black friday and I'm super happy with it. Setup was like 20 seconds.

I'm looking forward to getting more Unifi gear in the near future.

Re: UniFi 5G

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Post by beAbU »

huijzer wrote: post #125
sschueller wrote: post #31

I am confused, this is just a 5G router right? Like the 5 year old Huawei CPE Pro 2 but with wifi7, poe and eSim? [1] https://consumer.huawei.com/en/routers/5g-cpe-pro-2/

The big question is why do we need 5g? My phone doesn’t support it and my internet is fast enough as long as I have good coverage. Coverage problems are only exaggerated by 5G since the range for short waves is shorter

Not everyone has cable/fibre/wifi in their homes, and need to resort to 4/5g cellular services in order to be online.

This product is aimed at those people who want something nicer than the 5g router bundled with their plan.

Re: UniFi 5G

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Post by alphager »

a3w wrote: post #80
kkapelon wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unifi is the Apple of networking gear. When something new is released the HN crowd is excited even when the same functionality existed already with another company.

Ah, this is a Ubiquity product. That explains it. Why did AVM or Netgear Orbi not get this treatment for "works", though?

AVM is great for single-owner use with sub 20 devices.

Unifi is great for small IT companies providing network services to tens of costumers. Being able to manage everything remotely (and even batch things for all of your customers) is great.

Re: UniFi 5G

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Post by turnsout »

dismalpedigree wrote: post #102

The problem I have seen is when I need it most, due to a rare fiber internet outage, so does everyone else nearby and cellular data becomes saturated and unusable.

In locations where fiber is not available (like my place), cable is the next best option, and cable has a lot more unexpected downtime. I could see this being a good backup, especially for small businesses like retail shops that couldn't afford to have their POS go down for half a day.

Re: UniFi 5G

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Post by hypercube33 »

sofixa wrote: post #68
sschueller wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a wireless backup[1] using Vyos[2] and a 5G router provided for free by the 5G service provider for those rare moments when both fiber links are dead. At the same time I would never recommend anyone get 5G internet as their primary service if you have other options and especially not from one of these cheap providers. [1] https://sschueller.github.io/posts/wiring-a-home-with-fiber/ [2] https://sschueller.githu…

Hey, another person running VyOS! How are you handling updates? Do you update on a fixed cadence, or do you build your own LTS? Or do you just take a random nightly and stick to it?

VyOS and it's parent Vyatta always have been neat. Shame it sold off and kinda got pay walled.

Interesting fact that EdgeOS from Unifi was a fork.

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