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Mainstream physical media is already dead.

I wonder how much affect this has had in the Christmas trade for the entertainment industry. Back in the early 2000s it was common to buy a comedy DVD or a TV series for a family member or friend. Now people who own DVD / Blu-ray players are a rare breed.

Gifting streaming membership

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The thinking in the comments here seems very US-centric (as usual). Until recently watching HBO in the UK and Europe was not easy unless you’re prepared to watch it on Sky (in the uk anyway) so there’s money on the table for Netflix here in the form of eating some of Sky’s share. (HBO Max is coming to EU in Jan and UK sometime next year finally) Secondarily adding HBO gives Netflix the opportunity to upgrade its prod…

> HBO Max is coming to EU in Jan and UK sometime next year finally

This is a very misleading sentence. HBO Max has been available in 14/27 EU countries since 2022, and by now it's available in 22/27 EU countries, 4 of the remaining ones are covered by Sky, with which they signed an exclusive distribution agreement valid until 2025 back in 2019 - even before HBO Max was launched in the USA.

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Annapurna Pictures is owned by Megan Ellison. The studio have produced Oscar nominated marquee films like Her, Zero Dark Thirty, American Hustle.

Zero Dark Thirty, you say?

CIA propaganda to whitewash torture

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The theater business is already dead, it just doesn’t realize it yet.

In my opinion, here in the UK, the cinema/theatre business killed itself. Cinemas are horrible places to visit: - they smell bad (stale junk food) - they have oppressive lighting (mostly extremely dark but with garish turquoise and pink dazzle, accentuating the most confusing aspects of their architecture) - the sound systems are thunderously loud (I'll be taking earplugs the next time I go to one) - most of them are…

Big screen TVs and home theatre also had a huge impact.

Most of the cinema experience at home (without the public).

The experience is better at home for many

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HBO cancelled Perry Mason, one of the better done noir detective series. That was kind of the nail in the coffin for me. I still get it free because of my AT&T subscription, but I can't argue that Netflix has really come out with anything really worth watching either - Department Q and Mindhunter are only two that I think of that were decent. I agree that the majority of stuff on streaming services is complete garbag…

HBO died many years ago when ATT fired all the executives that had the taste and vision to make HBO what it was. They probably had some half decent stuff in the pipeline, but by now, I imagine there is no influence from the HBO of yore.

To me it died when they changed acceptable series length to 6 episodes on GoT. I really miss the days of 24 episodes, split into 12 episodes runs. I dont care that you spent the income of a small nation on the 6 episodes, I prefer you spread that money on 12 or more episodes so we can get story telling again.

Today's "TV shows" are more like TV movies that where split in into 3 1 hour runs.

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I went to a concert last night and wore a T-shirt I made that said "Fuck Warner Bros." The band was j*Davey. Warner Bros signed them over fifteen years ago and then shoved them into a box. The show last night, fortunately for me, was only about 300 people, but it should have been 10,000. Prince was a fan. They birthed an entire category of LA artists like Thursday Thundercat, Syd, Flying Lotus (those artists say that in their Instagram). They loved my T-shirt when we met after the show.

I got really emotional when I saw them again for the first time in twenty years. They are just amazing, and it is so shocking they couldn't make it work in the industry.

But Spotify seems even worse. It feels like the parasites are even worse now, and they turn around and invest in military startups.

What's the alternative? This band sold out of merch last night, is that enough for them to survive, or dare I dream, thrive in the world of today?

If you are in LA, go see them next week on the 12th. They are releasing a new album and if the world makes sense their next show will be 10,000 people.

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post #96

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HBO cancelled Perry Mason, one of the better done noir detective series. That was kind of the nail in the coffin for me. I still get it free because of my AT&T subscription, but I can't argue that Netflix has really come out with anything really worth watching either - Department Q and Mindhunter are only two that I think of that were decent. I agree that the majority of stuff on streaming services is complete garbag…

If your metric is only detective stories… i guess? But if you actually compare the quality of anything recent notable from HBO it's not even close. HBO cinematography, production quality, editing, script… its all levels above Netflix. Pick anything The White Lotus, Euphoria, The Last of Us, Peacemaker. Really anything. Netflix feels like everything is cheap. Maybe Ripley was nice but thats it?

The last Stranger Things series, of all things, is probably the single most expensive media production in history. More expensive than Marvel films, than both Avatars, than all of Games of Thrones, than Rings of Power per episode…

It even dwarfs the budgets of the biggest games ever and is roughly on the level of the upcoming GTA 6.

It’s completely mad! For a quaint small-scale mild-horror story set in the 80s. I get that it’s popular, but it would have been just as popular with 1/10 of the budget.

Exact numbers are often unknown, so I may be wrong for some of the examples above, but it’s in that order of magnitude.

But I agree that Netflix feels cheap. The Rings of Power felt remarkably cheap too. But it’s a lot more about the writing and the artistic merit than about actual production quality.

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> Content Supply has vastly overshot Demand Content has never overshot demand. I would drown myself in content if it were good and abundant. It's not. It's lackluster and middling. Content is scarce because it is expensive to produce. The wrong people get put in charge of projects (or tastes/reception is hard to gauge, and experiences hard to engineer). We wind up with a lot of expensive garbage. There is a dearth of…

> Content has never overshot demand. > > I would drown myself in content if it were good and abundant. It's not. It's lackluster and middling There is only an amount of time per day you can dedicate spending in front of a screen outside of work hours

If the poster just wants sci fi (and especially if that doesn’t include sci fi horror without space ships) I could see them only getting one or two good movies per year.

Me, I’d need two or three more lifetimes to get through my probably-good list of movies and tv, just for single watches… but I’m up for just about any genre.

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