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Let me phrase it a bit differently, then: AI generated cats in Ghibli style are a waste, we should definitely do less of that. I did not hold that opinion before the documentary Education-style infographics and videos are OK.
I’m not even talking about this. Those cat videos are just stepping stones for academy award winning masterpieces of cinema like dune. All generated by AI on a click in one second.
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I think if you watch the actual film you'd find they don't claim AlphaFold is thinking.
There is quite a bit of bait-and-switch in AI, isn't there? "Oh, machine learning certainly is not real learning! It is a purely statistical process, but perhaps you need to take some linear algebra. Okay... Now watch this machine learn some theoretical physics!" "Of course chain-of-thought is not analogous to real thought. Goodness me, it was a metaphor! Okay... now let's see what ChatGPT is really thinking!" "Nobod…
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The chatbots and image editors are just a side-show. The real value is coming in e.g. chemistry (Alpha fold etc all), fusion research, weather prediction etc.
None of that has reached the market yet. If it was up to the sciences alone, AI couldn't bear the weight of its own costs. It also needs to be vertically integrated to make money, otherwise it's a handout to the materials science company. I can't see any of the AI companies stretching themselves that thin. So they give it away for goodwill or good PR.
AI for science is not "marketed". It silently evolves under the wraps and changes our lives step by step.
There are many AI systems already monitoring our ecosystem and predicting things as you read this comment.
In my experience all DeepMind content ends up being a puff piece for Dennis Hassabis. It's like his personal marketing engine lol.
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The chatbots and image editors are just a side-show. The real value is coming in e.g. chemistry (Alpha fold etc all), fusion research, weather prediction etc.
ML is used in weather prediction since the 80s and is the backbone of it since almost a decade. Not sure what are LLMs supposed to do there.
The AI/AGI hype in my opinion could be better renamed to ml with data and compute 'hype' (i don't like the word hype as it doesn't fit very well)
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Why are images and video a complete waste? This makes no sense to me. Right now the generators aren’t effective but they are definitely stepping stones to something better in the future. If that future thing produces video, movies and pictures better than anything humanity can produce at a rate faster than we can produce things… how is that a waste? It can arguably be bad for society but definitely not a waste.
It might be shocking to you but some people believe there is more to life than producing and consuming "content" faster and faster. Most of it is used to fool people for engagement, scam, politics or propaganda, it definitely is a huge waste of resource, time, brain and compute power. You have to be completely brainwashed by consumerism and techsolutionism to not see it
We consume A LOT of entertainment every day. Our brains like that a lot.
Doesn't has to be just video but even normal people not watching tv at all entertain themselves through books or events etc.
Live would be quite boring.
In my experience all DeepMind content ends up being a puff piece for Dennis Hassabis. It's like his personal marketing engine lol.
Both are fundamental to their followers.
So its quite clear that you can't just say 'its DeepMind' but have a figure in the middle of it like Dennis.
They trust him to lead DeepMind.
i tried to watch it but like AI in general, it was extraordinarily boring. neural nets are really cool technically, but the whole AI thing is just getting old and I couldnt care less where its going we can guarantee that whether its the birth of superintelligence or just a very powerful but fundamentally limited algorithm, it will not be used for the betterment of mankind, it will be exploited by the few at the top a…
Do you know how long it took us to get to this point? Massive compute, knowledge, alogorithm etc.
Why are you even on HN if the most modern and most impactful technologie leads you to say "i couldn't care less were its going'?
Just a few years ago there was not a single way of just solving image generation, music generation and chat bots which actually able to respond reasonable to you and that in different languages.
AlphaFold already helps society today btw.
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Why are images and video a complete waste? This makes no sense to me. Right now the generators aren’t effective but they are definitely stepping stones to something better in the future. If that future thing produces video, movies and pictures better than anything humanity can produce at a rate faster than we can produce things… how is that a waste? It can arguably be bad for society but definitely not a waste.
It might be shocking to you but some people believe there is more to life than producing and consuming "content" faster and faster. Most of it is used to fool people for engagement, scam, politics or propaganda, it definitely is a huge waste of resource, time, brain and compute power. You have to be completely brainwashed by consumerism and techsolutionism to not see it
Take your favorite works of art, music and cinema. Imagine if content on that level can be generated by AI in seconds. I wouldn’t classify that as a “waste” at all. You’re obviously referring to bullshit content, I’m referring to content that is meaningful to you and most people. That is where the trendline is pointing. And my point, again is this:
We don’t know the consequence of such a future. But I wouldn’t call such content created by AI a waste if it is objectively superior to content created by humans.
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You lack imagination. When ChatGPT just came out people were saying it can never code. Now if you aren’t using ai in your coding you’re biting the dust. Stop talking about the status quo… we are talking about the projected trendline. What will AI be when it matures? Second you’re just another demographic. Smaller than fans of Coldplay but equally generic and thus an equal target for generated art. Here’s a prompt tha…
”What a way to show them. You rock! Unfortunately I can’t create the musical art you requested as you reference multiple existing musical acts by name. How about rephrasing your request in a way that is truly original and unique to you”
Nobody gives a fuck about what ChatGPT can currently do. It’s not interesting to talk about because it’s obvious. I don’t even understand why you’re just rehashing the obvious response. I’m talking about the future. The progression of LLMs is leading to a future where my prompt leads to a response that is superior to the same prompt given to a human.