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Racism at a gaming company

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Re: Racism at a gaming company

#131

Ridiculous and juvenile corporate culture aside, the irony of the author's narrative is slapping the reader right in the face. Hard. So hard it hurts. If you are going to take exception to racist, sexist and stereotypical joking - which is most certainly your right in a professional work environment, you may want to re-evaluate your own notions of "the evil white oppressor" and recognize it for the racism that it is.…

clearly looking for oppression whether it exists or not Is there an explanation for the events in the story that aren't clear examples of oppression? I can't find one.

The big assumption is that things happened exactly as they are being presented.

While I normally don't think a particular view would be that far from reality, in this case the author's clear bias - to the point of railing against a woman that made the cardinal sin of comparing his necklace to a calculator somehow equating to racism - I'm not so sure.

Re: Racism at a gaming company

#132
Just a side question. I lived in Santa Clara for a summer and spent basically all my nights out with a black coworker including going to SF multiple times and never saw any racism whatsoever.

The author seems to imply that SF is really racist. Is there any truth to that or did I just not notice while I was there?

Re: Racism at a gaming company

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post #85
post #3

"We don’t even tolerate people brining up concerns of racism here." Translation: "we don't want to admit that we have a toxic, racist corporate culture so we're going to blame the messenger." The emphasis here is on racism, but there's a ton of casual sexism -- and I'd be surprised if ageism wasn't present, too. This is, at best, a company where HR have taken their eye off the ball. More likely, there are serious ins…

I doubt they have an HR department yet...

About 1/3 of the way down...

I ask if that’s the word he used verbatim, and Mike says yes. I say if he wants to say that to me I’ll take that comment and all the rest to HR because I’ve been documenting everything racist he’s said, and Mike nods and says “yeah” and “ok” like he understands or like he cares.

And the "HR Dept" could be just 1-2 people.

Re: Racism at a gaming company

#136
post #26

>I cannot afford to take white people’s shit anymore. That’s been my mantra this year, and I’m still on it, even if that means getting the law involved. From the comment above (and several other parts of his article) he certainly appears to be just as racist as the people he's trying to demonize. Not to mention there's a crazy amount of self entitlement going on. >I had a whole month of potential creative and communi…

It's not illegal for the author to be racist.

It's rather illegal for an employer to be racist in their workplace.

Yes, I'd rather there were a better whistleblower than this guy. You seldom get things to align perfectly.

Re: Racism at a gaming company

#137
Decoder ring for nerds who are unable to read past words like "neoliberal colonizer" without racing to the nearest TEXTAREA:

* A black coworker is singled out by another (non-black) coworker with "watch out for that guy, he’s trouble, he talks a lot of shit"

* Referring to a latino coworker, that same coworker suggests jokes: "Like ‘you’re a mexican whore’ or like ‘your mother’s a Mexican whore?"

* The black coworker is given a dictionary and told "I got this for you cause I know you speak ebonics."

* The latino coworker is then told "I would have gotten you one too but they didn’t have wetback to english"

* The author, who is black, is then told "Hey he’s dressed like Run DMC, does he know how to rap?" (The author is wearing a Pitchfork Media-compatible outfit including skinny jeans and a long-sleeved print t-shirt)

* The black coworker later informs the author that "Steve wanted me to let you know that we’re dressing too thuggish in the office and we need to dress in a way that reflects the company better". "Steve" is the previously-mentioned white guy, and also apparently a manager.

* After telling that coworker that he is considering telling HR about racism in his group, "Steve" takes him aside for a 1-1 meeting. The author is informed that any attire is acceptable except for baggy jeans. After hearing the author's complaints, "Steve" says, "Whoa whoa whoa, those comments you’re hearing aren’t racist; they’re jokes", and then "The problem is that you’re too sensitive. You need to check all that at the door before you come here to work", and finally "We don’t even tolerate people brining up concerns of racism here.".

* Later, a women asks whether the pendant the author is wearing, which is from Nairobi, is "a calculator".

* "Steve" later informs the author, "it’s ok to make jokes about slavery because that’s over". Then, "Also, you should be grateful that your ancestors went through slavery."

Peppered throughout the post are cultural signs and signifiers that mark the author as an advocate for a fairly specific set of political and social beliefs. A reader could be excused for having concerns that the author was not an objective witness. On the other hand, those signifiers are so obvious that you could also question whether someone who had set out to unfairly tar the company would put them into the post.

Apart from the comment about the pendant, any one of the comments listed above would be a firing offense here.

Re: Racism at a gaming company

#138

I quit reading once I realized I was reading a gay man denouncing gentrifiers as being "neoliberal colonizers". Ugh... he may have experienced racism but he's also suffering from self delusion. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unreliable_narrator

I dunno if he's just angry, I guess it makes sense, but I agree that some of his comments seem off, like he has "problems" beyond the situation, these are just as racist: Also, at some point after this conversation took place, one of the women looked at my prized necklace and said “Hey, that looks like a calculator, is that a calculator?” I said “um no, it’s a necklace, it’s African, from Nairobi.” And she replies “O…

He seems to have anger and martyrdom issues all over - even the start of the story. In a coffee shop on a laptop, man asks "Hey, do you play video games?", gives him a card as an IT recruiter looking for video games testers.

His thoughts on this? "Is this guy for real, or an uber-creep [hitting on me]"...

Which I gotta say, even from his telling of what happened, wasn't a possibility that entered my mind.

Re: Racism at a gaming company

#139
post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the context of the preceding few minutes of conversation the author had with this manager, the only way the necklace question can be taken is as a racist comment.

Huh... >Also, at some point after this conversation took place, one of the women looked at my prized necklace and said “Hey, that looks like a calculator, is that a calculator?” I didn't really read that as immediately after, more along the lines of "sometime later that day someone walked up and asked if my necklace was a calculator"... the sentence doesn't give a good grasp on timing.

Ah sorry, I didn't really explain myself clearly. I mean to say that after being the subject of some really stressful and severe racial harassment, I don't think it would have been possible to take that comment as anything other than racist. In hostile work environments, it is really hard to take comments and questions in a straight-forward manner. This is how toxic cultures poison the ability of people to work together, by undermining the mental and emotional health of the staff.
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