While its been a long time since Ive used Thunderbird, I just wanted to take the time to publicly say thank you. Many HNers probably wont (or cant) remember the world of desktop mail clients but basically during the height of MSFT dominance there was only one real mail client: Outlook. Which Microsoft was starting to monetize heavily, ignore UX, and keep it windows only (cant blame them for that). Then Thunderbird ar…
> Many HNers probably wont (or cant) remember the world of desktop mail clients... If there are people who have never used a desktop mail client, I will say you owe it to yourself to try one. Web clients suck compared to desktop clients, it's not even close between the two. Sticking with just the Gmail interface (or whatever) is so limiting; definitely give alternatives a shot if you haven't.
Thunderbird adds native Microsoft Exchange email support
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Re: Thunderbird adds native Microsoft Exchange email support
#132While its been a long time since Ive used Thunderbird, I just wanted to take the time to publicly say thank you. Many HNers probably wont (or cant) remember the world of desktop mail clients but basically during the height of MSFT dominance there was only one real mail client: Outlook. Which Microsoft was starting to monetize heavily, ignore UX, and keep it windows only (cant blame them for that). Then Thunderbird ar…
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#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
Outlook was better than Lotus Notes at least.
MS Outlook was a heaven for viruses. Lotus (even before Notes) had cloud-like features for mail and worked on Windows and OS/2.
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#135What I'm most curious about, and what the docs are light on detail about: does this mean Thunderbird complies with remote deletion requests (which IIRC, the Exchange protocol suppports)? I have the impression that Microsoft makes this a requirement for Exchange implementations, which is why third-party devices and apps like Apple's Mail cooperate with those requests.
Re: Thunderbird adds native Microsoft Exchange email support
#136While its been a long time since Ive used Thunderbird, I just wanted to take the time to publicly say thank you. Many HNers probably wont (or cant) remember the world of desktop mail clients but basically during the height of MSFT dominance there was only one real mail client: Outlook. Which Microsoft was starting to monetize heavily, ignore UX, and keep it windows only (cant blame them for that). Then Thunderbird ar…
I still use Thunderbird and I love it. Even though I absolutely hate email and it is a chaotic clusterfuck we act like is bulletproof. I'm incredibly impressed at how feature deficit email is, but Thunderbird gives a lot of power back. It's just a lot of little things that add up. Like why is tagging and sorting so hard? But Thunderbird makes it easy, giving you as many as you want and let you label as you please. In…
I hear you on that. I'd even go a step further and say Apple Mail on desktop is a joke too.
That led me to build Marco, an IMAP‑primitive, offline‑first, cross‑platform email client for web, iOS, and macOS:
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#137The lack of native Microsoft Outlook support was one of the reasons I've abandoned Thunderbird. However, it is still not enough for me to come back. Sadly, corporate life is often organised around email and calendaring. All these endless meetings everyone complains about, which need to be scheduled, accepted, rejected, re-scheduled, etc. The native Exchange support does not yet support Calendar integration. Without i…
I barely ever open outlook at work. In fact I only open it on the webmail when someone asks me on teams if I have read their email. Much quieter that way as you only get to hear about the important stuff and can ignore the rest of the noise.
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#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Many HNers probably wont (or cant) remember the world of desktop mail clients... If there are people who have never used a desktop mail client, I will say you owe it to yourself to try one. Web clients suck compared to desktop clients, it's not even close between the two. Sticking with just the Gmail interface (or whatever) is so limiting; definitely give alternatives a shot if you haven't.
I tried a couple of them, and they both started downloading my entire backlog of email to my hard drive, which I didn't want. I couldn't think of a reason why this would be necessary, but I haven't really kept up with how the technology has evolved in recent years. Is this behavior intrinsic to desktop clients?
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#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
Eudora had its own very distinct take on mail client UI. Many loved it. I never really got on with it, although I could use it. While the native codebase is probably too old to salvage now, there was a project to write a Eudora-style UI for Thunderbird as an add-on. That might be easier to revive for 21st century email. http://www.staroceans.org/wiki/A/Eudora_OSE https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/eudora_ose.ht…
I know people that used it because it was self contained for Windows if I remember correctly. I remember one person running the installation off of a Zip drive back in the 90's. I warned them that Zip disks like to randomly self destruct and he'd better be making backups.
https://portableapps.com/apps/internet/thunderbird_portable
:-)