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Re: Zed is our office

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Post by BinaryPie »

mystifyingpoi wrote: post #123
BinaryPie wrote: post #102

I generally like what Zed is trying to become. However, all of these features and blog posts are frustraing when they struggle to keep basic editor features stable. Edit a file outside of the editor? It's not going to show up in the project pane or the git diff. Need to work inside a container because it's 2025 and we don't need to clutter our local machine with 100s of dependencies and env managers... well now all t…

How does Neovim handle outside changes then? Or is there a plugin to make it work? AFAIK it doesn't reload any bufferes when files change. IntelliJ is the only other one I know that does it transparently.

In vanilla neovim you can use autoread... this does depend on a focus event like entering and leaving the pane or switching buffers. However, for my workflow which is "go to a different terminal pane and do some things then switch back" as soon as I focus the buffer it updates.

Where as with Zed it'll just keep showing the old content and in fact closing and opening file wont even change what it shows in Zed. It's really really annoying. I have to exit zed and open it again. This means if you are working with AI agents you end up having to do this often.

Re: Zed is our office

#132

Post by lawn »

mystifyingpoi wrote: post #123
BinaryPie wrote: post #102

I generally like what Zed is trying to become. However, all of these features and blog posts are frustraing when they struggle to keep basic editor features stable. Edit a file outside of the editor? It's not going to show up in the project pane or the git diff. Need to work inside a container because it's 2025 and we don't need to clutter our local machine with 100s of dependencies and env managers... well now all t…

How does Neovim handle outside changes then? Or is there a plugin to make it work? AFAIK it doesn't reload any bufferes when files change. IntelliJ is the only other one I know that does it transparently.

You can configure Neovim to either auto reload or to ask you whenever a file is changed. (Can't remember which one is the default, probably to ask.)

Re: Zed is our office

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Post by travisgriggs »

olejorgenb wrote: post #109
travisgriggs wrote: post #99

I like Zed. I pay for pro. I like the integrated agent stuff (though my usage model has changed a bit after 5 months of use). I'm happy that others can type in each others' space, but this post reveals a tension here. They are building a tool for building the tool, and their own team. I think that's cool, but at a 2-3 person shop heavy polyglotted across 4 OSes and 5+ programming languages, this is not what I really…

> What I mostly want from Zed is the ability to see the outline panel at the same time as the directory panel You can do this now by moving one of them to the right dock (right-click the toggle-button)

And then toggle between that and the AI agent? Zed is a workbench that lets you put two, and only two, tools on your "workbench" to either side of your text workspace. I want to put more tools on my benchtop.

Re: Zed is our office

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Post by mystifyingpoi »

lawn wrote: post #132
mystifyingpoi wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does Neovim handle outside changes then? Or is there a plugin to make it work? AFAIK it doesn't reload any bufferes when files change. IntelliJ is the only other one I know that does it transparently.

You can configure Neovim to either auto reload or to ask you whenever a file is changed. (Can't remember which one is the default, probably to ask.)

Thanks, just found something about that.

Re: Zed is our office

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Post by mattnewton »

jes5199 wrote: post #47
mattnewton wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel the opposite way, that git branching and merging will become a bigger part of the job as more code is written by agents in parallel and then accepted by other agents or humans.

for now yes absolutely. but I’m already hearing rumblings that some people are having luck letting multiple agents edit the same directory simultaneously instead of putting changes through PR merge hell. It just needs coordinations tools, see https://github.com/Dicklesworthstone/mcp_agent_mail as one (possibly insane) prototype for example it’s not out of the question that we could end up with tooling that does truly…

Having tried a janky version of this myself with a NOTES directory, I am very bearish on this being a better workflow than just improving the ui wrapper around git worktrees and the isolation that provides.

Codex already has a fantastic review mode, and gemini / claude are building tools around pr review that work no matter how that pr was produced, so I think this interface is going to get baked in to how agents work in the near term.

Re: Zed is our office

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Post by nixpulvis »

xyzzy_plugh wrote: post #125
nixpulvis wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just have a few plugins which help. Mainly the LSP for gotodef and popovers for type info, etc. This was what finally made me transition to neovim. Also a tree viewer, Startify, and :Rg for ripgrep integration. Those are my big ones. Sadly my workflow of using `!` to get back to my terminal and things like `!make` or `!cargo build` is fucked in neovim. So I do a lot of ctrl-z and the a lot of killing stopped proces…

> Sadly my workflow of using `!` to get back to my terminal and things like `!make` or `!cargo build` is fucked in neovim. So I do a lot of ctrl-z and the a lot of killing stopped processes I forgot I suspended. I've complained about this in various threads and chats, but the developers aren't interested in letting us use the old vim `!` which is super lame. I'm sorry... what?? I still use vim as I haven't found a re…

They "work"... but instead of switching back from the alt screen and giving you your terminal back, they open a gimped little window within vim which makes it hard to navigate, copy, and search for things in the output.

Re: Zed is our office

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Post by smj-edison »

verdverm wrote: post #122
hrimfaxi wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does Mitchell Hashimoto have to do with Zed beyond a guest blog post?

My understanding is that he is involved in the development of Zed I find Zed's feature choices to be really poor, and then I probably made a poor association based on his talking about zed

I know he's working on ghostty, but I've never heard anything about him working on Zed, was that what you were thinking of?

Re: Zed is our office

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Post by nixpulvis »

mikaylamaki wrote: post #101
nixpulvis wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, that's unfortunate. Why not support it at all, even if just for people who are kinda hacking it in?

We’ve been growing and have had to scale authentication beyond what our original collab server could handle. Not many people are using collab yet, we’re prioritizing non-collaborative features (like our recent Windows release), and we’re planning on rebuilding all of this on top of DeltaDB. Fundamentally, it just fell through the cracks. Self hosting will be a vital feature for users and enterprises though, we’re pla…

Cool, thanks for the transparency and info.

I'm really rooting for you guys, and your direction and quality is exciting to see.

Re: Zed is our office

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Post by [deleted] »

xyzzy_plugh wrote: post #125
nixpulvis wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just have a few plugins which help. Mainly the LSP for gotodef and popovers for type info, etc. This was what finally made me transition to neovim. Also a tree viewer, Startify, and :Rg for ripgrep integration. Those are my big ones. Sadly my workflow of using `!` to get back to my terminal and things like `!make` or `!cargo build` is fucked in neovim. So I do a lot of ctrl-z and the a lot of killing stopped proces…

> Sadly my workflow of using `!` to get back to my terminal and things like `!make` or `!cargo build` is fucked in neovim. So I do a lot of ctrl-z and the a lot of killing stopped processes I forgot I suspended. I've complained about this in various threads and chats, but the developers aren't interested in letting us use the old vim `!` which is super lame. I'm sorry... what?? I still use vim as I haven't found a re…

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Re: Zed is our office

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Post by pprotas »

verdverm wrote: post #114
pprotas wrote: post #104

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I removed the collaboration panel from my bottom bar and don’t have to deal with it at all. Can recommend

I stay away from anything Hashimoto is making after my experiences with TF & HCL, or at least the bar is much higher / projects get a lot more scrutiny

Yea you’re thinking of Ghostty, this topic is about Zed, which is not related. In fact Zed uses Alacritty for their terminal, I wish it was Ghostty!
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