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Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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post #68

The least of its problems IMO, when the Cybertruck looks like it was designed to inflict maximum harm to pedestrians in a crash. The fact that such an obviously destructive design is legal on public roads should be setting off alarm bells at the USDOT and NHTSA.

Is this really happening though?

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

#132

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Am I the only one who works in an org where the strategy team, on a good day, is completely decoupled from efforts that result in delivery. On a normal day they actively sabotage those efforts. Like promising your team will create a Mars colony by 2036 while they're trying to make commercial rocketry efficient and safe.

> If you want to build a ship, don't drum up the men to gather wood, divide the work and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea. -Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

... famous for having built fuck all.

I mean yes, it is often good to inspire people. But that is not strategy any more than you can win a game of Risk by beliving you can roll only 7s.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

#133
post #68

The least of its problems IMO, when the Cybertruck looks like it was designed to inflict maximum harm to pedestrians in a crash. The fact that such an obviously destructive design is legal on public roads should be setting off alarm bells at the USDOT and NHTSA.

It looks like it's designed to inflict maximum harm, but it seems that it's actually less likely to kill you than an F-150 or Silverado or Ram. It has a lower hood height which is the aspect that has been hypothesized to be the reason that trucks kill pedestrians at a much greater rate than cars.

I'm not trying to condone Cybertruck here. I hope the Cybertruck becomes a rallying cry to mandate pedestrian safety in the US, and that mandate becomes data driven and indicts F-150 et al.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

#134

I dodged a bullet. I bought into the original heavy stainless steel exoskeleton concept, which they never delivered on. So they had my deposit. Then it took me a year and a half (!!) to get my deposit back from time of request, a dozen documented follow-ups on phone, email, and in-person at the stealership. Tesla’s excuse: While they were happy to take a Canadian’s money with fully refundable deposit terms, they had…

What part of the stainless exoskeleton did they not deliver on? https://www.tesla.com/learn/superior-durability-cybertruck-h... I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if promises weren't kept or expectations not met. This is the same company that has a product called Full Self Driving that cannot fully self drive.

The “exoskeleton” part? The stainless panels are poorly glued to an aluminum frame. The frame provides the structure, the panels are load, not bearing.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

#135
post #68

The least of its problems IMO, when the Cybertruck looks like it was designed to inflict maximum harm to pedestrians in a crash. The fact that such an obviously destructive design is legal on public roads should be setting off alarm bells at the USDOT and NHTSA.

Mechanically sure, but I still feel way safer when a Tesla (of any kind) is approaching me as a pedestrian or bicyclist than any other vehicle (except maybe Waymo) because I know they will alert the driver and brake if necessary. Any other car, especially older trucks, I'm quite afraid of, based on experience.

Are collision avoidance system and automated emergency braking not standard in the US? Here in Switzerland basically every new vehicle has them.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

#136
> "Tesla Service will inspect the light bar and install an additional mechanical attachment or replace the light bar using tape to adhere the light bar to the windshield as well as an additional mechanical attachment as necessary, free of charge."

Tape? The fix is to add some tape? At least it's free...

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

#137

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> how did this pass safety standards In the US, the safety standards consider only the occupants of the car. The safety of pedestrians, cyclists, and occupants of other cars are not considered. This was looking like it would change but with the current administration I doubt it. The Cybertruck is not legal in Europe and anywhere else with actual safety standards.

Downvote or not, it's true: > NHTSA conducts frontal, side and rollover tests because these types account for the majority of crashes on America's roadways. > IIHS tests evaluate two aspects of safety: crashworthiness — how well a vehicle protects its occupants in a crash — and crash avoidance and mitigation — technology that can prevent a crash or lessen its severity. > As well as assessing how well cars protect the…

NHTSA outlawed hood ornaments purely for pedestrian safety, so it’s not 100% correct.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

#138
post #3

The issue stems from the primer applied before gluing the optional light bar to the windshield (no fasteners are used in the attachment of the light bar). Is that typical in the industry, parts or components being glued onto an exterior surface instead of fastened?

3M Very High Bond tape holds many skyscraper windows in place.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

#139
post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mechanically sure, but I still feel way safer when a Tesla (of any kind) is approaching me as a pedestrian or bicyclist than any other vehicle (except maybe Waymo) because I know they will alert the driver and brake if necessary. Any other car, especially older trucks, I'm quite afraid of, based on experience.

Given the amount of pedestrians that have been killed by Telsas in "autopilot" mode, I can't say that I agree.

Could you give me some numbers about deaths caused by Tesla versus other brands per mile driven? It seems to be very difficult to find enough information to draw any conclusions.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

#140
post #81

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BYDs are never coming to the American market.

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Canada's auto industry is tied to the US's. As much as BYD coming to the US would hurt all of North America's auto industry. BYD coming to Canada would also hurt the auto industry. They are just too interconnected.
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