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Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by drivebyhooting »

jimbokun wrote: post #109
drivebyhooting wrote: post #31

Facebook and instagram are a disease. Time and again Meta’s properties have been shown to be detrimental to children’s (and adults’) mental health. Even by Meta’s own research! The whole thing stinks of the same foul reek as big tobacco. When their reckoning comes we will wonder how we could have let one megalomaniac’s scam go so far. > They trust me. Dumb fucks. > Zuck aut nihil. He never changed.

Along with every other social network.

You’re probably right. That doesn’t exonerate Zuck from his crimes.

Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by hereme888 »

lm28469 wrote: post #120
hereme888 wrote: post #108

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Not offended. It is one of the most corrupt countries since socialism. It was thriving when I grew up there. But when you steal, oppress, and kill competent leaders because you resent them having more money than you, and give entire industries (steel, gold, petroleum) to the "workers" because they think collective thinking > a single phD who knows what he's doing, the industries rot and fail, like they did.

> give entire industries (steel, gold, petroleum) to the "workers" That's one way to put it, the other way to put it is that your corrupt government seized the industries and put their cronies in charge, which I would say is more accurate.

That's literally how socialism and communism works in real life.

Radicals tell the masses what they want to hear, and then seize radical power, take their weapons, and force their will upon the people, while claiming it's for everyone's benefit. People who haven't witnessed it firsthand believe the insane pink-powder theory that "if I were in charge, I would be able to implement it correctly", daydreaming they are superior and able to handle dictator-level power. Why else would Carl Marx and others admit it has to be forced upon an unwilling population?

Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by thatguy0900 »

jimbokun wrote: post #102
thatguy0900 wrote: post #91

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How kind of him to give his wealth away after intentionally using his company to fracture society as much as he could to earn the money in the first place

Sigh. No, Zuckerberg did not set out consciously trying to "fracture society". He started out trying to provide a way to rate women at Harvard by how attractive they were, then by just trying to optimize revenue without any consideration for unintended consequences. Then kept going. Not understanding the failure mode is going to just lead to repeating the same mistakes at even grander scales, like what's happening no…

This is like the oil companies that hid the internal climate change studies for as long as they could. Zuck knew what he was doing long before everyone else did. Acting like he was just dumb and uninformed is wrong. When they started he might not have realized how bad optimizing for engagement was but it doesn't take a genius to realize what was happening with the data they have. He's not some starry eyed kid who accidentally made a monster, he found out he could become one of the richest men in the world if he made his monster vicious enough. This is a guy that started buying the land for his survival bunker 10 years ago.

Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by saubeidl »

jimbokun wrote: post #96
saubeidl wrote: post #16

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We must understand that all of our industries leaders are deeply mentally ill and dangerous people. Whether that is from not ever being told no once they got rich enough or whether it's pathological to even seek out that dimension of wealth is not clear, but the result is worrying either way.

Are you a licensed psychiatrist?

Are Ubers licensed taxis? Are Airbnbs licensed hotels?

Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by jimbokun »

_DeadFred_ wrote: post #128
jimbokun wrote: post #104

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Give me a definition of socialism that only includes the good things done in Western Europe and excludes all of the bad things that happened in Soviet Union, China, Venezuela etc.

If we want to judge financial systems based on past examples look no further than the first large implementation of capitalism via a joint stock company, the East India Company. Capitalism at it's base and purest form leads to as much pain/horrible behavior as the socialism examples.

Why are you changing the subject?

Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by jimbokun »

saubeidl wrote: post #134
jimbokun wrote: post #96

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Are you a licensed psychiatrist?

Are Ubers licensed taxis? Are Airbnbs licensed hotels?

So you're like an Uber psychiatrist compared to a licensed taxi psychiatrist?

Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by benrutter »

thatguy0900 wrote: post #91
benrutter wrote: post #86

> When Mark and Priscilla commit to giving away 99% of their wealth during their lifetimes I hadn't heard this before but googling it seems like a genuine commitment at the time[0]. I mostly feel like Zuck isn't making the world a better place, but this sounds really impressive as a commitment - any idea if this commitments been stuck to now we're around 10 years on? [0] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-349…

How kind of him to give his wealth away after intentionally using his company to fracture society as much as he could to earn the money in the first place

I get it, meta has caused a huge amount of societal damage, and we wouldn't need philanthropists if we fairer economies.

But people are complicated, and if Zuckerberg really is giving away 99% of his wealty to causes, that's a positive and worth discussing. Even if it doesn't make up for other harm.

Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by laserlight »

benrutter wrote: post #86

> When Mark and Priscilla commit to giving away 99% of their wealth during their lifetimes I hadn't heard this before but googling it seems like a genuine commitment at the time[0]. I mostly feel like Zuck isn't making the world a better place, but this sounds really impressive as a commitment - any idea if this commitments been stuck to now we're around 10 years on? [0] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-349…

> giving away

Giving away to their own LLC, not to a non-profit [0].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chan_Zuckerberg_Initiative

Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by saubeidl »

jimbokun wrote: post #136
saubeidl wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are Ubers licensed taxis? Are Airbnbs licensed hotels?

So you're like an Uber psychiatrist compared to a licensed taxi psychiatrist?

Licenses don't matter in the toxic world these people are building.

Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by latexr »

jimbokun wrote: post #94
code_for_monkey wrote: post #11

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Peter Thiel thinks Greta Thunberg is the antichrist. this should be disqualifying for life in the public sphere and somehow it is not.

What the fuck is the "public sphere" and who decides who does or does not get a membership card? Like, call Thiel an idiot with stupid ideas that are dumb, fine, but trying to cancel someone from the "public sphere" just reeks of passive aggression.

> What the fuck is the "public sphere"

All of us, collectively.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_sphere

> and who decides who does or does not get a membership card?

All of us, collectively.

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