Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, but if you decide to leave your job during the shutdown (say to find more stable work), you do not get paid for the unpaid hours you worked. And as others are saying, plenty of people can't afford to work for no pay indefinitely.
Of course they can. A bank would have no problems giving out loans given the pay is coming eventually.
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#132My concern is that we will end up in a state of perpetual government "shutdown". The republicans, instead of reopening the entire government, will simply choose agencies to fund in order to keep the pain felt by the American people just low enough so they don't get fired (ala office space). Once that happens, Congress has basically iced itself out. Oversight from unfriendly government agencies? No worries, they're sh…
Yeah, I think the actual underpinning support that broke this time is recission. In the past, of congress passed a budget with money for the some department or line item, that money would be spent. Now the president has claimed that he doesn't have to spend money he had been directed to spend by finding bills, and (importantly) the supreme court has upheld this stance. This means that there is no longer the ability t…
"Our legally elected representative directly refuses to represent us" should be plenty of grounds.
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#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's double speak to call it a "clean CR" when there was just a huge bill changing a ton of tax code, budget, and increasing ICE's budget by 10x.[1] Passing the CR would have approved those spending changes as if they were in an appropriations bill. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Big_Beautiful_Bill_Act
with a clean CR we can open the government temporarily and pass a budget, right? the whole CR thing is terrible, we need single subject bills
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#134My concern is that we will end up in a state of perpetual government "shutdown". The republicans, instead of reopening the entire government, will simply choose agencies to fund in order to keep the pain felt by the American people just low enough so they don't get fired (ala office space). Once that happens, Congress has basically iced itself out. Oversight from unfriendly government agencies? No worries, they're sh…
I'm happy these posts aren't getting flagged any longer, though. For the centrality of the United States in the tech industry (and vice versa), US politics are unfortunately also the most relevant story in the tech industry for any time horizon of a month or longer. Even Trump's "Long Live the King" announcement from near the start of his term was not taken seriously. It was quickly flagged here.
It sucks, but Trump is just the biggest tech story of the day every day, by virtue of being the latent factor.
There is no reason that can't happen. But consider also what it will mean if the government does re-open. I think it's much more likely than not that it reopens under Republican terms.
It sounds dramatic but it is worth describing plainly: This administration is destructive, and it has already been the end of many things as we know it.
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#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not if you want the economy to keep functioning. A lot of people doing real work (e.g. engineers flying out to fix medical devices) rely on air travel.
More people will die if the democrats capitulate, than those from malfunctioning medicals devices (or other reasons). I think you should do more research to understand the true cause and effect of the decisions in the current situation the U.S. finds itself in.
There's enough republicans in the House of Representatives for a vote amongst party lines to pass a budget there. That's not a problem for them
There's also enough republicans in the Senate to make it happen with a simple majority, which they posess. They surely know this.
Republicans can end the debate and vote on a bill -- including one that can temporarily get things moving -- any time they want to. They've got the numbers to do that.
It's not a theory. There's precedent. They've made that shift previously[1] in the not-so-distant past.
Re: Ground stop at JFK due to staffing
#136My concern is that we will end up in a state of perpetual government "shutdown". The republicans, instead of reopening the entire government, will simply choose agencies to fund in order to keep the pain felt by the American people just low enough so they don't get fired (ala office space). Once that happens, Congress has basically iced itself out. Oversight from unfriendly government agencies? No worries, they're sh…
Re: Ground stop at JFK due to staffing
#137My concern is that we will end up in a state of perpetual government "shutdown". The republicans, instead of reopening the entire government, will simply choose agencies to fund in order to keep the pain felt by the American people just low enough so they don't get fired (ala office space). Once that happens, Congress has basically iced itself out. Oversight from unfriendly government agencies? No worries, they're sh…
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#138Do Americans know that other countries don't have this wierd "government shuts down if we don't pass a budget" thing?
The ground stop was due to an aircraft emergency [0] and lifted within 21 minutes of being announced [1]. There are plenty of reasons to call out the shutdown, but using disinfo is the wrong method. [0] - https://pix11.com/news/local-news/ground-stops-at-jfk-due-to... [1] - https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_list?whichAdvisories=ATCSCC&...
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ground-delays-issued-sh...
Re: Ground stop at JFK due to staffing
#139My concern is that we will end up in a state of perpetual government "shutdown". The republicans, instead of reopening the entire government, will simply choose agencies to fund in order to keep the pain felt by the American people just low enough so they don't get fired (ala office space). Once that happens, Congress has basically iced itself out. Oversight from unfriendly government agencies? No worries, they're sh…
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As the majority, the Republicans in the Senate can unilaterally eliminate the filibuster rule, then pass anything they like. They don't need Democrats' votes at all. Republicans have already done this in the past when they wanted to ram through a bunch of judicial appointments and again when they wanted to get several Supreme Court justices through without any Democrat support.
The only thing stopping them is that the Republican party wants this shutdown to happen. It gives them another example to point to when they want to claim that government never works, license to harm government workers they don't like, an easy way to have government workers leave on their own, an excuse to fire government workers they want to get rid of, and another thing to blame on Democrats (because their base doesn't know any better).
Re: Ground stop at JFK due to staffing
#140My concern is that we will end up in a state of perpetual government "shutdown". The republicans, instead of reopening the entire government, will simply choose agencies to fund in order to keep the pain felt by the American people just low enough so they don't get fired (ala office space). Once that happens, Congress has basically iced itself out. Oversight from unfriendly government agencies? No worries, they're sh…
>Someone tell me why this couldn't happen. Beware the ides of march. During a constitutional crisis that doesn't seem to have an immediate resolution political violence should be expected from the inside as an attempt to reach a resolution. The last line of defense is that military leadership actually do have a pretty solid loyalty to the constitution and soldiers are pretty well trained to follow the chain of comman…
Even if so, the tricky part of course is the SCOTUS that declares anything that Trump wants "constitutional".