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JetKVM – Control any computer remotely

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Re: JetKVM – Control any computer remotely

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Since people are saying this software doesn't have enough time/known contributors for trust who would people recommend for remote control of say a parents laptop for remote IT support. Preferably $0 and open source but others as well

Re: JetKVM – Control any computer remotely

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Provenance and trust are relevant for a remote KVM. But I can't find any information on their Web site about who runs the JetKVM company, not even a partial name or handle of anyone, nor even what country they are in. Which seems odd for how much this product needs to be trusted. Searching elsewhere, other than the company Web site... Crunchbase for JetKVM shows 2 people, who it says are based in Berlin, and who also…

I think products like JetKVM are targeting hobbyists and small outfits; corporations who aren't on a public cloud are using stuff like idrac, ilo, or dedicated rackmount KVM hardware.

  > targeting hobbyists and small outfits
Sounds like a great botnet!

I'm joking a bit but these are exactly the entities that have fewer capabilities to detect malicious behavior.

Assuming JetKVM is operating in full good faith that doesn't mean they themselves aren't going to be the target. You compromise them and you compromise all their customers. That's true regardless of the company size, but is also the reason for transparency

Re: JetKVM – Control any computer remotely

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve been using the glinet comet kvm for my homelab and have no complaints. Their cloud is optional and I don’t use it. The built in tailscale client does what I need it to. I use it with their ATX power accessory to manage physical power on/off when needed. Given that these things have bare metal access, keeping them off of the public internet seems wise no matter what though.

Keeping these kind of management devices off the Internet seems prudent. But how do you do that and still get Tailscale to work? Assign the device to a separate vlan that is restricted to only talk to Tailscale? Otherwise, if the device is on your regular network, it will still be connected to the internet.

Use Tailscale subnet routing.

Untrusted devices can sit on a separate VLAN or get WAN blocked, you can still reach them internally, and from any other device on Tailscale. You just need to expose the subnet via Tailscale subnet routing.

Re: JetKVM – Control any computer remotely

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Provenance and trust are relevant for a remote KVM. But I can't find any information on their Web site about who runs the JetKVM company, not even a partial name or handle of anyone, nor even what country they are in. Which seems odd for how much this product needs to be trusted. Searching elsewhere, other than the company Web site... Crunchbase for JetKVM shows 2 people, who it says are based in Berlin, and who also…

If you do this sort of thing often, I'd love to chat further. I'm basically trying to automate this sort of manual research around companies with a library of deep research APIs. Had a show HN last week that seemed to go under the radar: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45671087 We launched corporate hierarchy research and working on UBO now. From the corporate hierarchy standpoint, it looks like the Delaware ent…

If you want to feature a governance structure infamously hard to get right and impressive to use as an demo, IKEA/Ingka would be an good example.

Re: JetKVM – Control any computer remotely

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I know this might sound naive but for those of us who had to google kvm here mean keyboard video and mouse, not the linux kernel-based virtual machine kvm this device apparently is used to connect to machines remotely over IP

I'm mildly confused as to the value over, say RustDesk. The latter allows remote control of external machines and has ip hole punching .. no hardware involved! Any takes here?

Re: JetKVM – Control any computer remotely

#137

My company runs on GL.iNet Comet GL-RM1 KVMs to manage servers deployed at remote customer sites and I'm about to deploy more tomorrow

"GL Technologies (HK) Ltd & GL Intelligence, Inc & Shenzhen GuangLianZhiTong Tech Co.Ltd" Since there's no independent audit of these and no way to prove that these aren't being intercepted, I wouldn't be bragging about voluntarily installing potential infrastructure vulnerabilities.

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Re: JetKVM – Control any computer remotely

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Provenance and trust are relevant for a remote KVM. But I can't find any information on their Web site about who runs the JetKVM company, not even a partial name or handle of anyone, nor even what country they are in. Which seems odd for how much this product needs to be trusted. Searching elsewhere, other than the company Web site... Crunchbase for JetKVM shows 2 people, who it says are based in Berlin, and who also…

If you do this sort of thing often, I'd love to chat further. I'm basically trying to automate this sort of manual research around companies with a library of deep research APIs. Had a show HN last week that seemed to go under the radar: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45671087 We launched corporate hierarchy research and working on UBO now. From the corporate hierarchy standpoint, it looks like the Delaware ent…

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Re: JetKVM – Control any computer remotely

#139
post #28

I know this might sound naive but for those of us who had to google kvm here mean keyboard video and mouse, not the linux kernel-based virtual machine kvm this device apparently is used to connect to machines remotely over IP

I'm mildly confused as to the value over, say RustDesk. The latter allows remote control of external machines and has ip hole punching .. no hardware involved! Any takes here?

RustDesk is an alternative to other remote desktop software, JetKVM is an alternative to a built-in IPMI. It could be used as a remote desktop in a pinch, but that's not really the main point.

E.g. you'd use JetKVM-like devices to re-install your OS via emulated drives, remotely control power (including hard reset, not just WoL and software shutdown), change BIOS settings, or troubleshoot a crashing box - all without relying on any specific software/capabilities/behavior of the given box. Meanwhile you'd use remote desktop software when you just want the desktop to present itself remotely.

Re: JetKVM – Control any computer remotely

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Provenance and trust are relevant for a remote KVM. But I can't find any information on their Web site about who runs the JetKVM company, not even a partial name or handle of anyone, nor even what country they are in. Which seems odd for how much this product needs to be trusted. Searching elsewhere, other than the company Web site... Crunchbase for JetKVM shows 2 people, who it says are based in Berlin, and who also…

This guy on YouTube made several videos reviewing these and also doing some WireShark analysis, also on NanoKVM. Personally I'd never use these on an interned facing network. But they can still be handy for local only. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yHhdTRVvDFU&pp=0gcJCQYKAYcqIYz...

i got nanokvm pro desktop a couple of days ago. looks like what was before is no more now. i run tcpdump for a while, the only outbound connections are ntp
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