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Recall for Linux
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Re: Recall for Linux
#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
I just nuked my home server Ubuntu and installed Windows. Canonical is still unable to make reliable TPM-unlocked full disk encryption, unacceptable for me as a data hoarder. https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapd/+bug/2045417
This is something that's bugged me about BitLocker for ages: What's the point of encrypting your disks if the computer automatically decrypts them anyway? The only situation I can see where this helps you is if someone steals your disk but not your computer, but that seems very unlikely to me. Maybe if someone just clones the disk, but again, it seems much more likely to me that if you're a high enough value target t…
It does decrypt them. But then what? How are you the thief going to extract them or data from RAM of a working machine?
Re: Recall for Linux
#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
Taking screenshots of your whole desktop every other second and sending it to a third part, just in case their OCR and cheap search built on top of it might come up with something useful? I haven't found a single situation where I would rather take that above more conventional and established approaches (browser history search, bookmarking, file management hygiene, etc)
The problem of "where did I see that" is something I suspect most people have encountered before. How that's actually done, though, is the devil. The vision -- semantic search of human experience -- is cool. The implementation -- always recording cameras piping every minute of your life to TotallyTrustworthyPeople's servers -- not so.
this happens to me less than once a week, not worth any real effort to avoid
general ai chatbots can usually answer any question that would be solved by magically summoning the exact page i looked at 2 weeks ago anyway
Re: Recall for Linux
#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
> ...outside of gaming my computing life is linux... If you've games purchased through Steam, try running them on Linux with the officially-supported-and-written-for-Linux Steam client. Over the past decade+, a ton of work has been put into making games work fine under Wine and Valve's fork of Wine called Proton. I've found that nearly every game in my embarrassingly-large Steam library works fine on Linux.
> I've found that nearly every game in my embarrassingly-large Steam library works fine on Linux. I have on occasion been scared off of buying a package from Humble Bundle when the games are available on Steam but not explicitly marked as linux. (Some of the games are marked with linux and some are not.) Are you saying I am being unnecessarily cautious? For example, there is a "momcore" bundle at the moment where som…
Check protondb.com. Current protondb status for Lake, Calico, We should talk, Beasts of Maravilla Island: Platinum, Apico: Gold, Kana Quest, Bombfest, Where the Bees Make Honey: Uknown, Onsen Master: Uknown (but has native build), Beans: The Coffee Shop Simulator: Playable.
Re: Recall for Linux
#135I know this is satire, but there is actually one and one you actually control. May be useful to remember who said what and where. It can be useful. Just not the way a megacorp implements it. Here it is [unaffiliated, untested by me, unvetted]: https://github.com/openrecall/openrecall
This alternative is still storing the screenshots and the OCRed content unencrypted, and the web UI is also unauthenticated.
There's some docs on storing the data in an encrypted volume or external drive, but 99% of people ain't doing that.
The only real improvement over MS's version is keeping the data local, which ain't much, really.
Re: Recall for Linux
#136Its kind of naive satire that looks silly on second thought. Recall was not bad because of the concept but implementation details, rollout communication and of course the microsoft part. Recall by an open entity with data ownership, security and transparency would have none of those issues and its just a new take on the universal desktop search that is enabled by ai being able to utilise pixels. I refuse to be shamed…
It's bad in concept as well. All of that data sent to a third party server is going to be public on the Internet at some point . Security? Don't make me laugh. Countries that required government IDs to participate online have already made this mistake and those IDs have been leaked. Just because it's open source or run by $NOT_MICROSOFT won't make it any safer. The problem with other people consenting to it is that i…
I don't get the deal with requiring govt Ids. Back home the government has an OpenId provider and you could link your governmental account if you wanted without leaking your Id/DL/Passport which has data that's considered more private than your Id number.
Re: Recall for Linux
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
Recall is an attempt at a solution all of us have encountered so many times in life.
Taking screenshots of your whole desktop every other second and sending it to a third part, just in case their OCR and cheap search built on top of it might come up with something useful? I haven't found a single situation where I would rather take that above more conventional and established approaches (browser history search, bookmarking, file management hygiene, etc)
Aren't screenshots just one implementation specific variant of the possible solutions? Recall immediately made me think about a universal API that all kinds of applications write history to. That data can then be searched, or you could possibly even have global undo/redo.
Screenshots are just "easier" to use, because you don't need to implement anything for individual apps. "Easier" only if you have data centers full of compute and the capital to very inefficiently throw a bunch of silicon and electricity at the problem.
Re: Recall for Linux
#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lacks Wayland support unfortunately. For just screen recording you can use https://git.dec05eba.com/gpu-screen-recorder It's 10+ GB per 8 hours based on some testing I did. Could be useful for short term uses like tracing some technical troubleshooting or pulling screenshots for documentation.
What issue did you run into? It's using grim for capturing the screen.
I don't see any results on KDE Wayland; a (fairly old) open issue: https://github.com/openrecall/openrecall/issues/10
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mss.exception.ScreenShotError: XGetImage() failed
Re: Recall for Linux
#139Recall signaled the coming end of networked compute resource usefulness. The writings on the wall. All those fancy shmancy crypto systems developed over decades reduced to nothing. Apart from it having no practical usefulness to the end user and only apparent usefulness to oligarchs and state actors, its offensive the way these schemes are always sold as though they're good for us. Can you call it gaslighting? Mental abuse? I dont know.
Re: Recall for Linux
#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I was in minority who thought it was super cool technology. The technology can be cool while still be a horrific idea because of the implementation and privacy implications.
As long as it's stored and processed locally, I don't really see the implications being that much worse than someone getting all your local IRC/IM/email logs. (Those or their equivalents are stored in the cloud nowadays but disregard that for now for the sake of argument.)
> As long as it's stored and processed locally
If it was any other company than Microsoft, I might have agreed with you that it's fine as long as those things happen.
But if history is any indication of the future, as soon as the tool gets popular, Microsoft will try to claw back whatever data it can about it's users, or add Pro features only available to signed up Microsoft users who pay, or something similar.
I think many of us have been burned by these companies doing bait-and-switch so many times, that it's almost impossible to not see the writing on the wall here and even spend five minutes trying it out.
I much rather wait for the inevitable (serious) FOSS clone that will be safer to use instead.