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Re: Armed police swarm student after AI mistakes bag of Doritos for a weapon

#131
In 1987, Paul Verhoeven predicted exactly this in the original Robocop.

ED-209 mistakenly viewed a young man as armed, blows him away in the corporate boardroom.

The article even included an homage to:

“Dick, I’m very disappointed in you.”

“It’s just a small glitch.”

Re: Armed police swarm student after AI mistakes bag of Doritos for a weapon

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post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is it fair to say that? That's some "why did you make me hurt you"-level justification.

No, it's not. I have shoes that I know always beep on the airport scanners, so if I choose to wear them I know it might take longer or I might have to embarrassingly take them off and put them on the tray. Or I can not wear them. Yes, in an ideal world we should all travel without all the security theatre, but that's not the world we live in, I can't change the way airports work, but I can wear clothes that make it f…

That's true, if you're saying "I can at least avoid being assaulted by the shitty system", I just want to point out that it is a shitty system.

Re: Armed police swarm student after AI mistakes bag of Doritos for a weapon

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> Omnilert later admitted the incident was a “false positive” but claimed the system “functioned as intended,” saying its purpose is to “prioritize safety and awareness through rapid human verification.” It just created a situation in which a bunch of people with guns were told that some teen had a gun. That's a very unsafe situation that the system created, out of nothing. And some teen may be traumatized. Again, un…

It’s actually “AI swarmed” since no human reasoning, only execution, was exerted - basically have an AI directing resources.

Re: Armed police swarm student after AI mistakes bag of Doritos for a weapon

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I expect that John Bryan -- who produces content as The Civil Rights Lawyer https://thecivilrightslawyer.com -- will have something to say about it. He frequently criticizes the legality of police holding people at gunpoint based on flimsy information, because the law considers it a use of force, which needs to be justified. For instance, he's done several videos about "high risk" vehicle stops, where a car is mistak…

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Re: Armed police swarm student after AI mistakes bag of Doritos for a weapon

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post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it's not. I have shoes that I know always beep on the airport scanners, so if I choose to wear them I know it might take longer or I might have to embarrassingly take them off and put them on the tray. Or I can not wear them. Yes, in an ideal world we should all travel without all the security theatre, but that's not the world we live in, I can't change the way airports work, but I can wear clothes that make it f…

That's true, if you're saying "I can at least avoid being assaulted by the shitty system", I just want to point out that it is a shitty system.

I fully agree with you on that, it is a shitty system :)

Re: Armed police swarm student after AI mistakes bag of Doritos for a weapon

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Omnilert later admitted the incident was a “false positive” but claimed the system “functioned as intended,” saying its purpose is to “prioritize safety and awareness through rapid human verification.” prioritize your own safety by not attending any location fitted with such a system, or deemed to be such a dangerous environment that such a system is desired. the AI "swatted" someone.

Calling it today. This company is going to get innocent kids killed. How many packs of Twizzlers, or Doritos, or Snickers bars are out there in our schools? First time it happens, there will be an explosion of protests. Especially now that the public knows that the system isn't working but the authorities kept using it anyway. This is a really bad idea right now. The technology is just not there yet.

>First time it happens, there will be an explosion of protests.

Why do you believe this? In the US, cops will cower outside of a school with an armed gunman actively murdering children, forcibly detain parents who wish to go in if the cops wont, and then re-elect everyone involved

In the US, an entire segment of the population will send you death threats claiming you are part of some grand (democrat of course) conspiracy for the crime of being a victim of a school shooting. After every school shooting, republican lawmakers wear an AR-15 pin to work the next day to ensure you know who they care about.

Over 50% of the country blamed the protesting students at Kent state for daring to be murdered by the national guard.

Cops can shoot people in broad daylight, in the back, with no justification, or reasonable cause, or can even barge into entirely the wrong house and open fire on homeowners exercising their basic right to protect themselves from strangers invading their homes, and as long as the people who die are mostly black, half the country will spout crap like "They died from drugs" or "they once sold a cigarette" or "he stole skittles" or "they looked at my wife wrong" while the cops take selfies reenacting the murder for laughs and talk about how terrified they are by BS "training" that makes them treat every stranger as a wanted murderer armed to the teeth. The leading cause of death for cops is still like heart disease of course.

Trump sent unmarked forces to Portland and abducted people off the street into unmarked vans and I think we still don't really know what happened there? He was re-elected.

Re: Armed police swarm student after AI mistakes bag of Doritos for a weapon

#140

"“We understand how upsetting this was for the individual that was searched as well as the other students who witnessed the incident,” the principal wrote. “Our counselors will provide direct support to the students who were involved.”" Make them pay money for false positives instead of direct support and counselling. This technology is not ready for production, it should be in a lab not in public buildings such as s…

> Make them pay money

It already cost money paying for the time and resources to be misappropriated.

There needs to be resignations, or jail time.

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