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Accessing Max Verstappen's passport and PII through FIA bugs

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Re: Accessing Max Verstappen's passport and PII through FIA bugs

#131

Rule 1. NEVER trust user supplied data. Once that rule was broken, any other rules broken became clear to everyone

You'd think that client side security would be something that we'd gotten over by now.

> You'd think that client side security would be something that we'd gotten over by now.

Well, we have passkeys. /s

Re: Accessing Max Verstappen's passport and PII through FIA bugs

#132
post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you try adjusting price?

I am not malicious or willing to attempt theft. Academically though, in an official testing environment, that would be entertaining to attempt.

Yeah I’m not suggesting that you adjust the price, just curious if they were passing price through the client as well.

Re: Accessing Max Verstappen's passport and PII through FIA bugs

#133
post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(playing the devil's advocate here) But that's not the case- if you find someone's physical keys in the street, will try to open the neighbor's door with it? so why is it ok to use a password that you "found" to log into a site?

Curiosity. I once dropped my keys on the way to my leasing office. I searched the entire complex and office for my keys. Then I saw a guy at the mailboxes trying to open each one, one by one.* I asked if he needed help and he just said he found some keys on the ground and wanted to find out who they belonged to. They were mine. And my mailbox was in the other side of the complex so all bets were off for him anyway. I…

that actually maybe super illegal if they are usps mailboxes.

Re: Accessing Max Verstappen's passport and PII through FIA bugs

#134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Curiosity. I once dropped my keys on the way to my leasing office. I searched the entire complex and office for my keys. Then I saw a guy at the mailboxes trying to open each one, one by one.* I asked if he needed help and he just said he found some keys on the ground and wanted to find out who they belonged to. They were mine. And my mailbox was in the other side of the complex so all bets were off for him anyway. I…

that actually maybe super illegal if they are usps mailboxes.

They... Probably are? They were my complexs mailboxes but only usps has access to them.

Re: Accessing Max Verstappen's passport and PII through FIA bugs

#135
post #43

Imagine being a world class F1 driver and (someone) still have to upload your CV somewhere.

a couple of weeks ago Verstappen raced in a "Advanced-amateur" competition in Germany - he had to be "trained" by an official instructor in a restricted car because he hadn't raced there before

I imagine the instructor "What could I teach Verstappen now..."

Re: Accessing Max Verstappen's passport and PII through FIA bugs

#136

That's not just one vulnerability, that's a whole slew of failures. For instance there is absolutely no need to keep those documents on the live server for applicants once they have been used for their intended purpose. Blast radius reduction and all that. I hope you got at least free tickets for life out of this.

> For instance there is absolutely no need to keep those documents on the live server for applicants once they have been used for their intended purpose. Blast radius reduction and all that. I hate this kind of post-hoc finger pointing people do after security breaches. There are other concerns in life beyond security - youre naive to think differently. Is your house secure or could somebody break past your protectio…

That's what you choose for yourself.

How do you feel if that's also what your bank chooses for you?

Re: Accessing Max Verstappen's passport and PII through FIA bugs

#137
post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lesson: instead of being the good guy and reporting shit, just sell it on black market.

(playing the devil's advocate here) But that's not the case- if you find someone's physical keys in the street, will try to open the neighbor's door with it? so why is it ok to use a password that you "found" to log into a site?

If I don't try the keys in my neighbor's door, how will I know which neighbor they belong?

Re: Accessing Max Verstappen's passport and PII through FIA bugs

#138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

that actually maybe super illegal if they are usps mailboxes.

They... Probably are? They were my complexs mailboxes but only usps has access to them.

Instructions unclear - any key I find now onwards I’ll mail it to this guys leasing office.

Re: Accessing Max Verstappen's passport and PII through FIA bugs

#139
post #72
post #70

They took the website offline on the same day it was reported! That’s amazing!

Yeah I thought that was good. The fix wasn't that long either given how fast enterprises like this usually operate.

I wonder how much the FIA being European affected the response. Would they have been as quick to react if they were American and knew they'd only be facing a relatively small class-action settlement?

Re: Accessing Max Verstappen's passport and PII through FIA bugs

#140

That's not just one vulnerability, that's a whole slew of failures. For instance there is absolutely no need to keep those documents on the live server for applicants once they have been used for their intended purpose. Blast radius reduction and all that. I hope you got at least free tickets for life out of this.

> For instance there is absolutely no need to keep those documents on the live server for applicants once they have been used for their intended purpose. Blast radius reduction and all that. I hate this kind of post-hoc finger pointing people do after security breaches. There are other concerns in life beyond security - youre naive to think differently. Is your house secure or could somebody break past your protectio…

I get told at least a couple of times every month that security and business continuity are a complete waste of time for your average company. So this isn't post-hoc, it is more like 'the dumb fucks don't even practice the basics and they could - and should - have known better'.
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