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I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

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Re: I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

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Post by throw-10-8 »

alansammarone wrote: post #129
throw-10-8 wrote: post #116

you havent needed ai to build this for decades. these random posts are so tiring: “i used ai to make something college freshmen were building in their dorm rooms 20 years ago”

after reading so many people argue about this over the last few years (and having had my own experience - I've been writing software professionally for close to 15 years), I've come to believe people are talking past each other because different people enjoy or excel at different aspects of coding. at the very least, there's people who enjoy the experience of hand-crafting software - typing, being "in the zone", thin…

took me a week to build a poker bot in 2006 that earned me $1000 a week during college, and that was self imposed because I didn't want to raise any flags.

It was based on a world of warcraft bot that I modified, and I learned a lot during the process.

What you call wasted mechanical work I call the foundations of a career that changed my life.

Take away the AI and this guy has nothing but an idea. An old idea that has already been done to death, and none of the skills required to actually implement it and maintain it.

You might not like writing code, but that is the job no matter how many natural language layers you put on top of it.

Re: I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

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Post by randomNumber7 »

mattmaroon wrote: post #112
vmg12 wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Collusion in live poker games in casinos is not a widespread problem. There is a problem with poker where people always think they are being cheated every time they lose. If you are playing in a casino in person it is very unlikely you are being cheated. If you are playing in a regulated website online that verifies the identities of the customers it is also unlikely you are being cheated. The vast majority of people…

A regulated online casino that verifies identity wouldn’t stop a bot. You’d just sign up under your name and use it. If your bot isn’t colluding it would just look to the casino like you’re good at poker.

Show me your no limit holdem bot for a 9 player table.

Do you think I can't exploit that after buying the history of millions of hands it played on some shady website.

Re: I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

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Post by Mashimo »

throw-10-8 wrote: post #131
alansammarone wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

after reading so many people argue about this over the last few years (and having had my own experience - I've been writing software professionally for close to 15 years), I've come to believe people are talking past each other because different people enjoy or excel at different aspects of coding. at the very least, there's people who enjoy the experience of hand-crafting software - typing, being "in the zone", thin…

took me a week to build a poker bot in 2006 that earned me $1000 a week during college, and that was self imposed because I didn't want to raise any flags. It was based on a world of warcraft bot that I modified, and I learned a lot during the process. What you call wasted mechanical work I call the foundations of a career that changed my life. Take away the AI and this guy has nothing but an idea. An old idea that h…

Correct, but HE does not enjoy it.

If someone makes a 3D printer for houses there is probably someone who will say laying bricks "is the real job"

It's just someone writing about his vibe coding experience. Not interesting for me, but then again I stopped reading half way and am not telling people to stop.

Re: I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

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Post by throw-10-8 »

Mashimo wrote: post #133
throw-10-8 wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

took me a week to build a poker bot in 2006 that earned me $1000 a week during college, and that was self imposed because I didn't want to raise any flags. It was based on a world of warcraft bot that I modified, and I learned a lot during the process. What you call wasted mechanical work I call the foundations of a career that changed my life. Take away the AI and this guy has nothing but an idea. An old idea that h…

Correct, but HE does not enjoy it. If someone makes a 3D printer for houses there is probably someone who will say laying bricks "is the real job" It's just someone writing about his vibe coding experience. Not interesting for me, but then again I stopped reading half way and am not telling people to stop.

The 3D printer analogy doesn't hold up though, that implies design, engineer, and knowledge of your constraints.

It's more like a pachinko machine that rewards the user with house like objects that may or may not work.

If the user builds their house with it and it collapses and kills their family fine, but you can't use a system like that to build anything where you might have external liability because fundamentally you don't understand the problem domain and an ai model cannot hold a civil engineering license and be held liable for structural collapse.

Re: I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

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Post by sejje »

jagged-chisel wrote: post #128
sejje wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The poker world would love to hear your story. It would be the biggest news in some time.

Might be another somewhat interesting perspective - not sure how filling in the details from my summary above could be big news. But sure, I’d write it up if it seems interesting enough to someone.

By and large it is not proven that bots exist in any large scale.

The operator running his bots would be a betrayal and probably end the business of the poker site involved.

Re: I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

#137

Post by retsibsi »

pinkmuffinere wrote: post #35
reillychase wrote: post #20

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No idea, obviously you can see I'm a n00b and not a profitable poker player but on the strategy side, and this is very oversimplified, but you should be folding a lot of the time other than when you get AA-22, AK, AQ, AJ, AT, KQ, KJ, QJ, JTs, T9s, 87s you call or 3 bet pre-flop because you have good odds. When you're up against tight players you can make a small bluff on the flop and scare them away most of the time,…

> No idea, obviously you can see I'm a n00b and not a profitable poker player but on the strategy side Sorry, why are you answering a question if your first response is “no idea”? Am I missing something? If you have little information, my feeling is that your response is at best just BS? I know that sounds very rude, I’m sorry for that.

Don't punish honesty. He gave enough information up front for you to easily ignore him if you weren't interested a low-confidence/low-expertise response. Far better that than confident, unhedged BS.

Re: I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

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Post by reillychase »

rhubarbtree wrote: post #120
sans_souse wrote: post #2

Cool write up. I played online professionally for the year leading up to the big online shutdown. AMA, always love talking poker strategy.

Played a random game the other day and I love it! What’s the best way to learn and get involved? I just want to play socially, happy to lose a little money each time as the cost of fun.

I like reading BlackRain79 and watching his YouTube videos. Nothing beats experience though. Start playing without money for a long time first to learn the rules of the game. I actually downloaded a Game Boy emulator for iOS and the ROM for GBA World Poker Tour (2005). After playing that for a long time I finally got the basics like muscle memory of knowing what hand beats what and what possible combinations could be out there based on the board cards, stuff like that. Then from there if you live in a legalized state like I do you could start playing the lowest stakes online like .01/.02 NL.

Re: I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

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Post by bluecalm »

randomNumber7 wrote: post #132
mattmaroon wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A regulated online casino that verifies identity wouldn’t stop a bot. You’d just sign up under your name and use it. If your bot isn’t colluding it would just look to the casino like you’re good at poker.

Show me your no limit holdem bot for a 9 player table. Do you think I can't exploit that after buying the history of millions of hands it played on some shady website.

Just fyi 6max bots were destroying online $5/$10 games on Party Poker (back then the biggest site) in 2009. That was before public solvers, other algorithmic advancements and huge hardware progress.

Re: I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

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Post by cmeacham98 »

mattmaroon wrote: post #112
vmg12 wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Collusion in live poker games in casinos is not a widespread problem. There is a problem with poker where people always think they are being cheated every time they lose. If you are playing in a casino in person it is very unlikely you are being cheated. If you are playing in a regulated website online that verifies the identities of the customers it is also unlikely you are being cheated. The vast majority of people…

A regulated online casino that verifies identity wouldn’t stop a bot. You’d just sign up under your name and use it. If your bot isn’t colluding it would just look to the casino like you’re good at poker.

Not alone, but presumably the online casino also has some sort of anti-botting measures, and if your bot gets banned you can't re-use your identity.
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