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A 12,000-year-old obelisk with a human face was found in Karahan Tepe

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Re: A 12,000-year-old obelisk with a human face was found in Karahan Tepe

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I read this comment before clicking, and half expected it to be sarcasm exactly because of how common that is

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What on earth have you been smoking friend? Only Thai people? Really? Do you even know if there was anything approximating a Thai culture, that traveled several thousand kilometers (maybe it was a boring sunday and they started sailing, or walking) to Turkey, 12,000 years ago?

Re: A 12,000-year-old obelisk with a human face was found in Karahan Tepe

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That's impossible, the mirror wasn't invented until millennia later, so there's no way the sculptor would have known what a human face looked like. They must think we're stupid.

I see some people didn't get the obvious joke.. the big joke though is that some people actually think like that. As a little boy I was into Erich von Däniken and his books about how, basically, aliens made a lot of the "impossible to make for humans at the time" artifacts. But then my, at the time, 9-year old found the part where he wrote (paraphrased) "[photo of a sculpture made to look like a skeleton] This sculpture has the correct number of ribs. This proves that they had access to X-ray machines, because without X-ray machines this is impossible."

That's when I realized the guy was a kook and it was all rubbish. He was into it for the money, btw. The "click-bait" of the time. And in my opinion Hancock is Däniken's spiritual descendant.

Re: A 12,000-year-old obelisk with a human face was found in Karahan Tepe

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How are we so certain that they had no social hierarchy at all? I thought that that was the main theory but that very little is certain at this point.

mostly because all the bones of all the dead were mixed in with all the others. implying no concept of "this guy was THE guy in my lifetime". but they presumably still had a meritocracy because while the bones were mixed in with all others of all generations, not everyone would have their bones were mixed in upon death. it was likely only the craftsmen or shamans that achieved that honor. but being honored is differe…

That's an extraordinary claim since every group of humans in written history, not to mention chimps, whales, and probably all social vertebrates, form social hierarchies.

If that's an accepted idea in the field, hopefully it comes with a lot more evidence than bones being mixed, as future archaeologists might find in many of our cemeteries of today.

Re: A 12,000-year-old obelisk with a human face was found in Karahan Tepe

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That's clearly Turkish, which would make sense for an obelisk in an ancient site in Turkey, not Thailand

It's neither Turkish nor Thai for obvious reasons:

- Thailand is in south-east Asia

- Turks weren't around that area, not even close, until ~700 years

Considering that the majority of asia minor was Greek for millenias before, calling this site "clearly Turkish" is like calling Machu Picchu "clearly Spanish"

Re: A 12,000-year-old obelisk with a human face was found in Karahan Tepe

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The distance between Turkey and Thailand is ~7500km.

Yeah but neither Turkish nor Thai state or culture really existed 12k years ago.

The concept of states, time itself, and trolling on internet forums didn't exist 12k years ago either, but that hasn't stopped ya'll.

Re: A 12,000-year-old obelisk with a human face was found in Karahan Tepe

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That's clearly Turkish, which would make sense for an obelisk in an ancient site in Turkey, not Thailand

It's neither Turkish nor Thai for obvious reasons: - Thailand is in south-east Asia - Turks weren't around that area, not even close, until ~700 years Considering that the majority of asia minor was Greek for millenias before, calling this site "clearly Turkish" is like calling Machu Picchu "clearly Spanish"

>>Considering that the majority of asia minor was Greek

hahaha not anymoreeeee :)

Re: A 12,000-year-old obelisk with a human face was found in Karahan Tepe

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That's clearly Turkish, which would make sense for an obelisk in an ancient site in Turkey, not Thailand

It's neither Turkish nor Thai for obvious reasons: - Thailand is in south-east Asia - Turks weren't around that area, not even close, until ~700 years Considering that the majority of asia minor was Greek for millenias before, calling this site "clearly Turkish" is like calling Machu Picchu "clearly Spanish"

> was Greek for millenias before

... But not _that_ many millennia. This wasn't Greek (nor was it Turkish, of course); way too early.

Re: A 12,000-year-old obelisk with a human face was found in Karahan Tepe

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It's neither Turkish nor Thai for obvious reasons: - Thailand is in south-east Asia - Turks weren't around that area, not even close, until ~700 years Considering that the majority of asia minor was Greek for millenias before, calling this site "clearly Turkish" is like calling Machu Picchu "clearly Spanish"

> was Greek for millenias before ... But not _that_ many millennia. This wasn't Greek (nor was it Turkish, of course); way too early.

I didn't say it was Greek either. Just pointing out how cringely wrong it is to say it's "clearly Turkish"
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