"Be Different" doesn't work for building products anymore

Post by sfn42 » Mon, Oct 06, 2025, 11:21 PM UTC

aliher1911 wrote: post #126

chihuahua wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you're missing the point of the comment you've replied to. That comment is talking about implementing the DB. When you're implementing a DB, you can't just forward reads and writes to another DB. Someone has to actually implement that DB on top of a filesystem, raw disk, or similar storage.

With the post's logic if you work on DB you likely have an SQL engine that is a CRUD on top of storage engine. And storage engine is a CRUD on top of some disk storage, which is CRUD over syscalls on files. Think Mysql using MyRocks using RocksDB. And keep applying until there's no sense left.

Post by thomashabets2 » Mon, Oct 06, 2025, 11:30 PM UTC

WA wrote: post #102

Animats wrote: post #94

Would someone please name a few products in this space, where there's a glut of vibe-coded apps? Thanks.

Not names, but categories: Habit trackers, period calendars, journaling apps, calorie trackers, workout tracking apps, symptom trackers, budget planning apps, tax/tip calculators, meditation apps, productivity timers, recipe collection apps, affirmation / inspiring quotes apps, SaaS boilerplates, social media scheduling tools, AI chat bot, AI wrappers for all of the above. You'll find hundreds of apps for every singl…

Post by mierz00 » Tue, Oct 07, 2025, 8:12 AM UTC

nonethewiser wrote: post #80

tylerrobinson wrote: post #21

This article is based on vibes just like the trends it hypothesizes. To pick just one claim: “Big companies used to move slowly, but now a ragtag team of two developers at a large firm can whip up something that looks top-of-market to the untrained eye in a matter of weeks.” This is just pure speculation with no consideration of success or longevity. Big companies are going faster now? Where? Which ones? AI coding al…

>This is just pure speculation with no consideration of success or longevity. Big companies are going faster now? Where? Which ones? Yes but there is a more fundamental problem. The claim doesnt even make sense: >“Big companies used to move slowly, but now a ragtag team of two developers at a large firm can whip up something that looks top-of-market to the untrained eye in a matter of weeks.” That was never the probl…

Post by ben_w » Tue, Oct 07, 2025, 10:54 AM UTC

bawolff wrote: post #114

sfn42 wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, that's essentially what I mean when I say crud app. It's basically a web api written in something like C# or whatever you prefer, which receives HTTP requests and translates them into DB operations. CRUD and views basically. For this type of development you want the DB to handle basically all the heavy lifting, the trick is to design the DB schema well and have the web API send the right SQL to get exactly the…

I was actually going for the opposite point - databases generally meet the definition of CRUD app. You create rows, read them, update them and delete them (literally SQL verbs INSERT, SELECT, UPDATE, DELETE). But they are highly complex pieces of software. People who program them are generally hard core.

Post by theshrike79 » Wed, Oct 08, 2025, 7:27 AM UTC

advisedwang wrote: post #12

> Where a great idea in a space once had 5-10 competitors, hundreds now appear - all competing for attention. Big companies used to move slowly, but now a ragtag team of two developers at a large firm can whip up something that looks top-of-market to the untrained eye in a matter of weeks. Perhaps I'm out of touch, but I haven't seen this explosion of software competition. I'd LOVE to see some new competitors for MS…