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Re: Social Cooling (2017)

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Post by dmje »

etrautmann wrote: post #95
globalnode wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dont know? does non participation now flag you as a problem person? (playing devils advocate: i dont participate in any social media besides HN)

No? Most of my peers don’t participate in social media anymore. I know few people who post online on almost any platforms outside of group chats.

Same. My sons are 21 and 18, both are fairly typical of their peer group - they belong to and participate in Insta, Snapchat etc but it’s very much small private groups and not public posting.

Re: Social Cooling (2017)

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Post by drivebyhooting »

jacquesm wrote: post #81
baxtr wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My best friend from school days has a son who’s now in 7th grade. Recently, when we were talking about him, we realised his school years are far less dramatic than ours. We had drama, lots of bullying, tears, fights, and mean things were done. In contrast, his son’s school days are absolutely harmless and benign. I know it’s n = 1 and maybe we were very unlucky back then. But it also makes me wonder if any chaotic ex…

This massively depends on where you are located and on the school itself. A 5 km difference can be a completely different world. When we moved in 2018 one of my kids could not immediately go to the school we favored. But the other one could and then in the next year the fact that he already had a brother in that school would give him preferred access. Those two schools could not have been different. The one was an en…

I’m awed that you can be so sanguine when speaking about the abuse your son suffered and the lifelong consequences.

I’d be livid and frothing with vitriol.

Re: Social Cooling (2017)

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Post by softwaredoug »

This site makes the wrong conclusion.

People game their social scores by being provocative edgelords. There’s almost no incentive on social media to conform. And every incentive to stand out.

Just look around at our political situation, you see far less conformity, and extremes in political expression. We even elected President Edgelord.

Re: Social Cooling (2017)

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Post by Jensson »

softwaredoug wrote: post #133

This site makes the wrong conclusion. People game their social scores by being provocative edgelords. There’s almost no incentive on social media to conform. And every incentive to stand out. Just look around at our political situation, you see far less conformity, and extremes in political expression. We even elected President Edgelord.

Most people don't want to get harassed and attacked at the level Trump gets so there are strong incentives to not do what he did. Saying there are no reasons not to do it is just ignorant, most people prefer peace and quiet over drama.

Re: Social Cooling (2017)

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Post by patcon »

drivebyhooting wrote: post #132
jacquesm wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This massively depends on where you are located and on the school itself. A 5 km difference can be a completely different world. When we moved in 2018 one of my kids could not immediately go to the school we favored. But the other one could and then in the next year the fact that he already had a brother in that school would give him preferred access. Those two schools could not have been different. The one was an en…

I’m awed that you can be so sanguine when speaking about the abuse your son suffered and the lifelong consequences. I’d be livid and frothing with vitriol.

First off: thanks for sharing how you experience your protective instincts. I can feel your love for your kid

With that said --

Wha... your and my reads are so different... I hear that as: One lived in the real world that most normal unchosen people experience, and the other had means to avoid said world?

"Abuse" feels strong, bc putting the select (usually wealthy) kids in the safest place and not choosing responsibility/stake in remediating the larger shared experience, that feels like the larger "condemnation to abuse" to me.

I'm a pretty hardcore collectivist though, and I understand that's not everyone's value system *shrug*

Re: Social Cooling (2017)

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Post by nathan_compton »

arthurofbabylon wrote: post #34

The Americans (†) who grew up with constant surveillance (social media, cameras everywhere) aim for ordinariness. The entire generation is less likely to express a non-consensus opinion than prior generations. For good reason: with everything being recorded and broadcast, personal errors are both accentuated and persist longer with no corresponding rise in upside. Bold opinions and creative ideas are simply too risky…

People say this but is it true? Young people, for instance, increasingly say that political violence may be justified. That doesn't sound like a safe opinion.

Re: Social Cooling (2017)

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

nathan_compton wrote: post #137
arthurofbabylon wrote: post #34

The Americans (†) who grew up with constant surveillance (social media, cameras everywhere) aim for ordinariness. The entire generation is less likely to express a non-consensus opinion than prior generations. For good reason: with everything being recorded and broadcast, personal errors are both accentuated and persist longer with no corresponding rise in upside. Bold opinions and creative ideas are simply too risky…

People say this but is it true? Young people, for instance, increasingly say that political violence may be justified. That doesn't sound like a safe opinion.

>Young people, for instance, increasingly say that political violence may be justified

This is gonna get downvoted for sure because HNs bias, but based on current events, it's only the left that does that.

Right-wingers may say hurtful words but don't seem too keen on murdering opponents for political reasons or disagreements. At least not yet.

Re: Social Cooling (2017)

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Post by estimator7292 »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #138
nathan_compton wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People say this but is it true? Young people, for instance, increasingly say that political violence may be justified. That doesn't sound like a safe opinion.

>Young people, for instance, increasingly say that political violence may be justified This is gonna get downvoted for sure because HNs bias, but based on current events, it's only the left that does that. Right-wingers may say hurtful words but don't seem too keen on murdering opponents for political reasons or disagreements. At least not yet.

Like a coup?

Re: Social Cooling (2017)

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Post by nathan_compton »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #138
nathan_compton wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People say this but is it true? Young people, for instance, increasingly say that political violence may be justified. That doesn't sound like a safe opinion.

>Young people, for instance, increasingly say that political violence may be justified This is gonna get downvoted for sure because HNs bias, but based on current events, it's only the left that does that. Right-wingers may say hurtful words but don't seem too keen on murdering opponents for political reasons or disagreements. At least not yet.

Not really relevant to the point, but https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/10/01/political-...

That poll from 2020 shows republicans and democrats roughly equal on the question. It wouldn't surprise me to find that the desire for political violence goes up among those currently out of power, anyway.

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