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Re: Who needs Git when you have 1M context windows?

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Post by steveklabnik »

hiccuphippo wrote: post #86
cranium wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Commit even as a WIP before cleaning up! I don't really like polluting the commit history like that but with some interactive rebase it can be as if the WIP version never existed. (Side ask to people using Jujutsu: isn't it a use case where jujutsu shines?)

I assume Jujutsu only commits the file when you use one of the jj commands. I don't think it keeps a daemon running and checking for changes in the files.

It does the former by default, and the latter if you configure it.

Re: Who needs Git when you have 1M context windows?

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Post by steveklabnik »

Aurornis wrote: post #30
the_af wrote: post #10

I cannot wrap my head around the anecdote that opens the article: > Lately I’ve heard a lot of stories of AI accidentally deleting entire codebases or wiping production databases. I simply... I cannot. Someone let a poorly understood AI connected to prod, and it ignored instructions, deleted the database, and tried to hide it. "I will never use this AI again", says this person, but I think he's not going far enough:…

The common story getting shared all over is from a guy named Jason Lemkin. He’s a VC who did a live vibe-coding experiment for a week on Twitter where he wanted to test if he, a non-programmer, could build and run a fake SaaS by himself. The AI agent dropped the “prod” database, but it wasn’t an actual SaaS company or product with customers. The prod database was filled with synthetic data. The entire thing was an ex…

I generally agree with you, but I think a lot of people are thinking about Steve Yegge, in addition to Jason Lemkin. And it did lock him out of his real prod database.

Re: Who needs Git when you have 1M context windows?

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Post by RandallBrown »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #45
cranium wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Commit even as a WIP before cleaning up! I don't really like polluting the commit history like that but with some interactive rebase it can be as if the WIP version never existed. (Side ask to people using Jujutsu: isn't it a use case where jujutsu shines?)

Assuming you squash when you merge the PR (and if you don't, why not?), why even care? Do people actually look through the commit history to review a PR? When I review I'm just looking at the finished product.

I don't typically review commit by commit, but I do really appreciate having good commit messages when I look at the blame later on while reading code.

Re: Who needs Git when you have 1M context windows?

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Post by pyuser583 »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #128
bgwalter wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's nothing. Compare https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1956583412203958733 : "The phone/computer will just become an edge node for AI, directly rendering pixels with no real operating system or apps in the traditional sense ."

What's ridiculous is that second paragraph: "There isn’t enough bandwidth to transmit video to all devices from the servers and there won’t always be good connectivity, so there still needs to be significant client-side AI compute." So no real operating system, except an AI which operates the whole computer including all inputs and outputs? I feel like there's a word for that.

What's the word? "Robot?"

Re: Who needs Git when you have 1M context windows?

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Post by throwaway-18 »

globular-toast wrote: post #46
cranium wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Commit even as a WIP before cleaning up! I don't really like polluting the commit history like that but with some interactive rebase it can be as if the WIP version never existed. (Side ask to people using Jujutsu: isn't it a use case where jujutsu shines?)

Git is a distributed version control system. You can do whatever you like locally and it won't "pollute" anything. Just don't merge that stuff into shared branches. I automatically commit every time my editor (emacs) saves a file and I've been doing this for years (magit-wip). Nobody should be afraid of doing this!

Honest question - What DO you merge into shared branches? And, when your local needs to "catch up", don't you have to pull in those shared commits which conflict with your magit-wip commits because they touch the same code, but are different commit hashes?

Re: Who needs Git when you have 1M context windows?

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Post by Imustaskforhelp »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #128
bgwalter wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's nothing. Compare https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1956583412203958733 : "The phone/computer will just become an edge node for AI, directly rendering pixels with no real operating system or apps in the traditional sense ."

What's ridiculous is that second paragraph: "There isn’t enough bandwidth to transmit video to all devices from the servers and there won’t always be good connectivity, so there still needs to be significant client-side AI compute." So no real operating system, except an AI which operates the whole computer including all inputs and outputs? I feel like there's a word for that.

I am just speechless.

I would expect this from a 3rd grader for sure, my friend's sister's book had a photo of ubuntu and windows and operating systems and it won't take me more than 5 minutes to a literal toddler who knows about operating systems from a very high level to explain to them after they know about operating system to teach them why this thing that elon said was the dumbest thing anyone ever said, period.

Is this what free market capitalism does when people at the top are completely incapable of forming basic thoughts that can make sense and not be a logical paradox?

I am thinking more and more after I read your post that maybe these guys won't really miss out on a few billion $ of taxes and other things, nothing can fix the holes in their lives.

Now it makes sense why we have a system which has failed. Why capitalism feels so heartless. So ruthless. Its run by people who don't have a heart or well in this case a brain as well

https://gravitypayments.com/the-gravity-70k-min/ This comes to my mind more and more, why can't companies pay their workers not what they think they can get away with but rather what they think is fair. Why can companies be morally bad for their workers and that's okay and why are people like these running such companies who can't equate 1+1 in the name of AI.

Re: Who needs Git when you have 1M context windows?

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Post by kristjansson »

bgwalter wrote: post #106
wseqyrku wrote: post #66

"Who needs git when [..]" No matter how that sentence ends, I weep for our industry.

That's nothing. Compare https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1956583412203958733 : "The phone/computer will just become an edge node for AI, directly rendering pixels with no real operating system or apps in the traditional sense ."

yes yes yes we'll just invent the world from whole cloth at 60 fps
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